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Your dreamteam - GT's

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Right on the basis the original brief was to win as much as possible get the sponsor exposure. I think we need a mountain train, a couple of breakaway men, and a decent sprinter.

So...

GC Leader
Pantani

Mountain Train
Betancur
Virenque
Quintana

Mayo's record on the Alpe is going down to these four

Sprints
Renshaw ... leading out:
Cav

Stage Hunter/Doomed Break Specialists (someones got to be on the first hour of TV coverage!
Txurruka
Pirazzi

TT/Generally Towing the Peleton About
Martin

Might need a big budget, but I think 21 stage wins in the tour will justify it! :cool:
 
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For the sprint stages I would love to see a team of:

Kiryienka
Martin
Cancellara
Chavanel
Eisel
Sagan
Renshaw
Veelers
Cav

Martin, Cancellara, Chavanel and Kiri to stop all breaks.
Eisel to be road captain and get Cav over those hills.
Sagan to win the hillier stages and the green jersey.
Renshaw and Veelers to lead out Cav.

Poor Gorilla wouldn't stand a chance and Renshaw could use his head to help them beat Kittel!
 
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Afrank said:
1. Leader-Contador (Arguably the current best GT rider)
2. Flat Dom/TT specialist- Cancellara (He can take yellow on the first day, do great work for the team on the flats and still win stages).
3. Mountain Dom- Quintana (did great work for Valverde at the Vuelta, also might be able to contend for white)
4. All-around Dom- Hincapie (Can do work on the flats and the mountains)
5. All-around Dom- Voigt (no explanation needed)
6. Free-role- LL sanchez (can get in breaks, go for stage wins)
7. Super-dom- Vino (he can do it all and still get a couple stages)
8. Free role- Gilbert (for domestique work and to contest in uphill sprints)
9.sprinter- Sagan (Can contend with green and doesn't need a sprint train to do so)

Hmm, my first list needs some amending.
1. Hard decision between Quintana and Nibali, will swap Contador for Quintana (because Quintana went head-to-head with Froome).
2. Same-Cance
3. Swap Quintana for Kreuziger (or maybe Contador :p)
4. Same I guess, if were going to switch maybe swap for Kiryienka, Agnoli, or Kangert.
5. Same- Voigt
6. Swap Lulu for Rui Costa
7. Same- Vino
8. swap for Dan Martin
9. Same-Sagan
 
Afrank said:
Hmm, my first list needs some amending.
1. Hard decision between Quintana and Nibali, will swap Contador for Quintana (because Quintana went head-to-head with Froome).
2. Same-Cance
3. Swap Quintana for Kreuziger (or maybe Contador :p)
4. Same I guess, if were going to switch maybe swap for Kiryienka, Agnoli, or Kangert.
5. Same- Voigt
6. Swap Lulu for Rui Costa
7. Same- Vino
8. swap for Dan Martin
9. Same-Sagan

Blasphemy :mad:

Next year The Great One will prove all the doubters wrong:eek:
 
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TDF2014 GC win Team

1. Alejandro 'The Great' Valverde
2. Andrew Talansky
3. Michal Kwiatkowski
4. Rafal Majka
5. Beñat Intxausti
6. Tanel Kangert
7. Zdenek Stybar
8. Ion Izagirre
9. Sylvain Chavanel

This team > Everyone
 
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BigMac said:
Still-active

TDF2014 GC win Team

1. Alejandro 'The Great' Valverde
2. Andrew Talansky
3. Michal Kwiatkowski
4. Rafal Majka
5. Beñat Intxausti
6. Tanel Kangert
7. Zdenek Stybar
8. Ion Izagirre
9. Sylvain Chavanel

This team > Everyone

Valverde still wouldn't get on the podium.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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42x16ss said:
All Czech or Slovak?

Majka, Bodnar, Kwiatowski, Niemiec?

Edit: But honestly close enough, they are polish, slovak, and czech, all speak an east slavic language, in the case of slovak and czech very close, polish probably closer than italian to spanish (close run thing). Looking at the talent in this region at the moment, f***n tenuous I know :p
 
karlboss said:
Majka, Bodnar, Kwiatowski, Niemiec?

Edit: But honestly close enough, they are polish, slovak, and czech, all speak an east slavic language, in the case of slovak and czech very close, polish probably closer than italian to spanish (close run thing). Looking at the talent in this region at the moment, f***n tenuous I know :p
Still, handy team.
 
what about an all time classy team? imagine that...

team leader:
campionissimo fausto coppi
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engines for all sorts of terrain:
hugo koblet
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evgeni berzin
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jan ullrich
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some other good domestiques mainly for flat and hilly

frank vandenbroucke
giani bugno
miguel indurain

climbing goats:
marco pantani
charly gaul


make this happen.
 
Evgeni Berzin
Pjotr Ugrumov
Lance Armstrong
Jan Ullrich
Ricardo Ricco
José María Jiménez
Marco Pantani
Francis De Greef
Graeme Brown

Francis De God as mountain domestique, Brown for the flat sprints and crashing into the competition.
 
karlboss said:
Majka, Bodnar, Kwiatowski, Niemiec?

Edit: But honestly close enough, they are polish, slovak, and czech, all speak an east slavic language, in the case of slovak and czech very close, polish probably closer than italian to spanish (close run thing). Looking at the talent in this region at the moment, f***n tenuous I know :p

You could throw in Tony Martin, since he's from Chóśebuz. Not an ethnic Sorb though.

Oh, and Polish/Sorbian/Czech/Slovak/Kashub/Polabian are West Slavic, not East Slavic languages. East Slavic languages are Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian. South Slavic are Slovene/Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian/Macedon/Bulgarian/other smaller languages in the Balkan peninsula. The linguistic delineations of Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian are contentious, and the languages are often divided more upon cultural than pure linguistic grounds, with so much shared vocabulary and the major points of difference mainly coming in the fields of religious terminology and the choice of alphabet.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
You could throw in Tony Martin, since he's from Chóśebuz. Not an ethnic Sorb though.

Oh, and Polish/Sorbian/Czech/Slovak/Kashub/Polabian are West Slavic, not East Slavic languages. East Slavic languages are Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian. South Slavic are Slovene/Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian/Macedon/Bulgarian/other smaller languages in the Balkan peninsula. The linguistic delineations of Serbian/Croatian/Bosnian are contentious, and the languages are often divided more upon cultural than pure linguistic grounds, with so much shared vocabulary and the major points of difference mainly coming in the fields of religious terminology and the choice of alphabet.

I should have read my post again ;)

Speaking of actual east slavic speakers, Belarus to be exact, whatever happened to Samoilau?
 
Armstrong
Vino
Riis
Heras
Pantani
Ulrich
Rasmussen

Hincapie

Zabel

It would be fun because Pantani, Rasmussen and Heras would lose time in the TTT/ ITT's then try smash the mountains. Zabel sweeps up any "easy" stages- Hincapie for breaks/ cobbles/ dom
All dopers on purpose.
 
I always thought Samoilau might be able to reach say the Kiryienka level on the back of some glimpses in 2010/2011. I was "surprised" that he wasn't renewed for 2013 (I don't think I realised until half way through the year), but at his age someone who doesn't have a whole lot to offer despite being solid is always expendable and often it's better to roll the dice on a youngster.

But CCC is an ideal team for him, either to assist Rebellin or take the reins in some of the smaller eastern races.
 

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