2012 Giro d'Italia, May 12th, Stage 7: Recanati - Rocca di Cambio 205km

[rhubroma]

If he is in great form, he'll manage just fine. You're talking as if the Tour has lesser climbers lol. I was only speaking in jest when I said Frank is going to win anyway.

Oh I know the Tour climbs ar hard, just the Giro climbs are different.

 

[rhubroma]

Dont worry the only threat is TURBO

E chi è? Please enlighten.

 

[airstream]

Well, Frank better show himself to be a superior climber than he ever has before. Otherwise he'll find out how hard a Giro is to win the third week. Trust me.

That was only a warm-up actually and he could easily hold on at the expense of his great classic background. It seemed to me he was able to even push the tempo at the end but didn't see anyone else beside him (Tira and Michele were already within 20-30m distance) and slowed down a bit. Nevertheless, that was quite a demonstrative moment.

I think no one of big guns have saved power today. It was the first real mutual (yes, a very slight one) battle in the final kilometer Every year he bumps into hardness of the third week in the TdF. What's the principal difference in this regard?



Zam_Olyas, ok. I see. It's your humor. You are free to consider that could ridicule me if you feel better from it.

 

[GIBO SIMONI]

E chi è? Please enlighten.

Ivan turbo diesel Basso

 

[rhubroma]

That was only a warm-up actually and he could easily hold on at the expense of his great classic background. It seemed to me he was able even push the tempo at the end but didn't see anyone else beside him (Tira and Michele were already withing 20-30m distance) and slowed down a bit. Nevertheless, that was quite demonstrative moment.

I don't think no one of big guns have saved power today. It was the first real mutual (yes, a very slight one). battle at the final kilometer Every year he bumps into hardness of the third week in the TdF. What's the principal difference in this regard.



Zam_Olyas, ok. I see. It's your humor. You are free to consider that could ridicule me if you feel better from it.

Rocca di Cambio, which I have raced up, is a climb done at 25-30k. It's an ascent where one sits good on the wheels, benefiting as he does from the draft and good for a strong Ardennes classics rider like Shleck, but isn't a suited finish for a climber like say Basso. It is therefore no indication of how Frank will react up the Giau, the Mortirolo, the Stelvio, etc.,.

Not saying he's not riding into form, but he has never shown himself previously to be the kind of rider to drop the Bigs at the front at the end of 3 week stage race, while fighting for overall victory. And this is what he will have to do. So wait and see.

 

[The Hitch]

rujano indredible today!dancing up the mountain like a butterfly. not even his kind of mountain. way too easy. tahts why he lost time to that whining b*** kreuziger. hes gonna lose minutes tomorrow lol. wait and see. rujano just soft pedaled up and still almost dropped everyone. amazing!were gonna see him destroy everyone soon. i said it a million times already.

Very good Ryo. well done

Dont agree. To imitate Ryo you dont just praise hyperbole Rujano and insult Kreuziger, you need to hit the intricacies.

His posts are usually shorter and he wont praise Rujano if he fails. he will look to Savio or Androni teammates or Rujano for an excuse, usually that Rujano was ill or that he had a mechanical or something. He wont make it up though. He will look to a source for the excuse, which will convince him that the excuse is valid, so hell be posting entirely from the heart.

In this case, he might just ignore Rujano completely and boast how he was the only person in the whole wide world telling everyone that henao was going to be a star in the giro and that he is going to make money off stupid bookmakers who thought otherwise.

Oh and Ryo has no skill for poetry.

 

[Red Rick]

Tiralongo reinventing himself as moutain sprinter, me gusta. To me it looked like Schleck waited for a bit when Scarponi went, he might have come too late

 

[The Hitch]

Giro mountains,

Not quite the team pursuit

177. STANNARD Ian SKY 21'47"
178. THOMAS Geraint SKY 21'47"
179. KENNAUGH Peter SKY 21'47"

 

[The Hitch]

Tiralongo, good job. Purito - semi-fail.

You said he was going to lose time. He came 4th

And Dani in 8th. Could be good for Katusha.

 

[Fetisoff]

You said he was going to lose time. He came 4th

And Dani in 8th. Could be good for Katusha.

Yeah, I did. But just watching how the race unfolded, Vicioso did a long pull up the mountain, meaning Purito probably felt that he was feeling good enough to win the stage, and yet at the end, he had no answer for Tiralongo, Scarponi and Schleck

 

[The Hitch]

I don't think he is fully recovered from his injury at Fleche Wallone, slowly riding himself into form imo, expect him more in 3rd week.

Yep. Whats that Stelvio altitude again. 2700 or something. The boys from the Cordillera Central will be at home.

 

[The Hitch]

Only in stages where some pussies don't dare to start

Trying to make mountain stages about cav now?

If thats directed at who i think it is pretty sure your beloved gilbert(done nothing this year) would bail to no.

Boonen too

 

[Fetisoff]

Rodriguez: "Today I felt in a good shape, better than yesterday. Anyways, Giro is still long and hard, we'll see what's going to happen"


Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but doesn't sound like he really feels all that great

 

[LaFlorecita]

Giro mountains,

Not quite the team pursuit

177. STANNARD Ian SKY 21'47"
178. THOMAS Geraint SKY 21'47"
179. KENNAUGH Peter SKY 21'47"

............

 

[El Pistolero]

Trying to make mountain stages about cav now?



Boonen too

Nope, merely calling out the bad habit of leaving Grand Tours when the first mountains come up. Cipo got criticized for it in the Tour, so why can't I do the same for riders who're doing it to the Giro?

Boonen and Phil aren't in this race. Last time Phil did the Giro he won the 20th stage.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Rodriguez: "Today I felt in a good shape, better than yesterday. Anyways, Giro is still long and hard, we'll see what's going to happen"


Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but doesn't sound like he really feels all that great

I think you are. Nobody feels great every day during a GT. He had a reasonable day and is in good shape, GC wise.

 

[Frosty]

Giro mountains,

Not quite the team pursuit

177. STANNARD Ian SKY 21'47"
178. THOMAS Geraint SKY 21'47"
179. KENNAUGH Peter SKY 21'47"

123 Cavendish 17'21"

 

[El Pistolero]

Yeah, I did. But just watching how the race unfolded, Vicioso did a long pull up the mountain, meaning Purito probably felt that he was feeling good enough to win the stage, and yet at the end, he had no answer for Tiralongo, Scarponi and Schleck

Don't worry, remember Montevergine last year? Contador almost got gapped there.

 

[airstream]

Rocca di Cambio, which I have raced up, is a climb done at 25-30k. It's an ascent where one sits good on the wheels, benefiting as he does from the draft and good for a strong Ardennes classics rider like Shleck, but isn't a suited finish for a climber like say Basso. It is therefore no indication of how Frank will react up the Giau, the Mortirolo, the Stelvio, etc.,.

Not saying he's not riding into form, but he has never shown himself previously to be the kind of rider to drop the Bigs at the front at the end of 3 week stage race, while fighting for overall victory. And this is what he will have to do. So wait and see.

I understand, Basso is a narrow specialist in terms of climbs with an average gradient 9+%, but currently Frank may be a better climber in general (not today, just if we would try to compare them in off-season). It can play a role. Furthermore, there will be the only stage suited to Basso perfectly (Alpe di Pampeago). I strongly doubt he will take a risk to drop everyone on Giau (again, in theory in case he's able to do it) as there is a 20k descent onwards.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Nope, merely calling out the bad habit of leaving Grand Tours when the first mountains come up. Cipo got criticized for it in the Tour, so why can't I do the same for riders who're doing it to the Giro?

Boonen and Phil aren't in this race. Last time Phil did the Giro he won the 20th stage.

Fair cop, although you should be able to prepare for the biggest race of the year in any way you see fit, without getting criticised for it, especially if you have a good record there. After yesterday's rant, I assume you're going to give Cav credit today for not finishing in the laughing group?

 

[hatcher]

Cipo leaving the Tour early. Very topical. It's the story on everyone's lips.

 

[El Pistolero]

Fair cop, although you should be able to prepare for the biggest race of the year in any way you see fit, without getting criticised for it, especially if you have a good record there. After yesterday's rant, I assume you're going to give Cav credit today for not finishing in the laughing group?

It's also the fault of the organizers mind you. They should have 2 sprint stages in the last week(and less in the first week) to keep the sprinters in, or at least some of them. Also this is an Olympic year, but most sprinters drop out in other years as well, so...

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Cipo leaving the Tour early. Very topical. It's the story on everyone's lips.

breaking news even.

 

[rhubroma]

I understand, Basso is a narrow specialist in terms of climbs with an average gradient 9+%, but currently Frank may be a better climber in general (not today, just if we would try to compare them in off-season). It can play a role. Furthermore, there will be the only stage suited to Basso perfectly (Alpe di Pampeago). I strongly doubt he will take a risk to drop everyone on Giau (again, in theory in case he's able to do it) as there is a 20k descent onwards.

It is the cumulative effect of 9%+ in the third week that makes the difference. If this is what you mean by Basso being a "narrow specialist," then you've just increased my suspects about his possible final victory! And conversely my doubts about Schleck.

 

[rhubroma]

Good display by Scarponi (and somewhat surprising, given his season so far and opening to this Giro) and the tenacity of Tira was comendable.