2012 Giro d'Italia, May 7th, stage 3: Horsens → Horsens, 190K

[jens_attacks]

Even if Ferrari thinks he's innocent, his manager can admit that he was wrong.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/savio-apologizes-for-ferraris-manoeuvre

savio is always a down to earth man and that apology is logical

 

[El Pistolero]

Going to be interesting to see the next sprint stage now.

Wonder what the other guys will do to him? He definitely owes them an apology.

 

[Froome19]

Renshaw is not a sprinter. Clearly lacks the speed. He's a lead out man, can position him self well during a sprint, isn't slow either, so sometimes that gets him a win. His second place at the Champs was all because of the domination HTC train. Cancellara would have ended up in second place there as well and he's not a sprinter.

It's not hating, it's an observation and Renshaw clearly lacks speed to be a sprinter. What has a prologue to do with sprinting? Or leading someone out for that matter? Renshaw has done much better lead-outs for Cavendish than Geraint Thomas today and therefor I call him a better lead-out man.

Renshaw has many sprint wins to his name? Really? Where? I can count them on one hand.

You think you can understand?

How you could claim any sprinter is better than "this" rider is hard for me to understand

 

[El Pistolero]

How you could claim any sprinter is better than "this" rider is hard for me to understand

It's not that hard is it? Cav is better than all the other sprinters. Kittel is better than most other sprinters bar Cavendish, etcetera.

 

[Tour de Berghem]

I think that Roberto Ferrari had a too light punishment. His voluntary movement could end with Cavendish death if Demare was not so fast to change his trajectory and not pass on Cavendish's head and Favilli was not able to do an incredible jump with his bike over Cannonball's body. His interview with RAI TV confirmed that has not consciousness of how is dangerous his way of ride. I think that a ban from all Giro 2012 was better.

 

[El Pistolero]

I think that Roberto Ferrari had a too light punishment. His voluntary movement could end with Cavendish death if Demare was not so fast to change his trajectory and not pass on Cavendish's head and Favilli was not able to do an incredible jump with his bike over Cannonball's body. His interview with RAI TV confirmed that has not consciousness of how is dangerous his way of ride. I think that a ban from all Giro 2012 was better.

Yes, but in the past many riders have not been punished heavily enough for the same reckless racing behaviour.

I still remember Visconti's sprint last year in the Giro or some of Romain Feillu's sprints at the Tour last year.

That's the problem with cycling: they're not very consistent with their punishments. It would be good if they took him out of the race to send a clear answer to anyone who might try the same in future races. But they have to treat everyone the same then and that's not the case right now.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Even if Ferrari thinks he's innocent, his manager can admit that he was wrong.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/savio-apologizes-for-ferraris-manoeuvre

Ferrari's version of the truth isn't exactly backed up by the video evidence.
At least Androni are winning one Giro competition hands down.
A pity it's the "Scummiest Team" award.

His interview with RAI TV confirmed that has not consciousness of how is dangerous his way of ride. I think that a ban from all Giro 2012 was better.

In his interview, he gave the impression that he thought it a big joke to be questioned about his actions. All that smirking and snorting.
Arrogant and dismissive.

 

[El Pistolero]

Ferrari's version of the truth isn't exactly backed up by the video evidence.
At least Androni are winning one Giro competition hands down.
A pity it's the "Scummiest Team" award.

Well they have a fair play award, so the last one in that competition is the scummiest team. I think Quick Step "won" that last year.

edit: it's actually in the article you just quoted. Should have read it first.

They're well on their way then. Perhaps Ferrari can score the winning move when he hangs on the cars during the mountain stages That's how Quick Step "won" it at least.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Well they have a fair play award, so the last one in that competition is the scummiest team. I think Quick Step "won" that last year.

edit: it's actually in the article you just quoted. Should have read it first.

Yes.
Another "win" that Rabobank can't quite get their hands on!

 

[RHRH19861986]

Glad that there are no major injuries for Cavendish...

But remember what he did to Heinrich Haussler in the Tour de Suisse 2010! One day you win, one day you lose.

 

[El Pistolero]

Yes.
Another "win" that Rabobank can't quite get their hands on!

This time I'm actually hoping Bos can win a sprint here to prove a point

But his bike handling skills on the road are just... Dreadful. With 7 flat stages, will he ever make it to final 200 meters intact? Still has 5 chances.

 

[Swifty's Cakes]

All the statements from Ferrari, Savio and Cav and the associated fuming on here are just hot air. The peleton are big boys and they'll sort it out on Thursday.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

This time I'm actually hoping Bos can win a sprint here to prove a point

But his bike handling skills on the road are just... Dreadful. With 7 flat stages, will he ever make it to final 200 meters intact? Still has 5 chances.

Most of the remaining flat stages are too "mountainous" for him.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Yeah I had good hopes of Bos winning a stage in Denmark. But his climbing is not that terribly bad when he's in good form. (meaning, he will finish in the bus in the mountains and survive very light hilly stages).
But after his fall I think this is out of the question

 

[superconfex]

All the statements from Ferrari, Savio and Cav and the associated fuming on here are just hot air. The peleton are big boys and they'll sort it out on Thursday.

..........Meanwhile Team Gadret moves up another 12 places to 144th

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Renshaw DID endanger somebody - Farrar. Renshaw was DQed not for the headbutt on its own, but for following it almost immediately with a wild and reckless sweep to the left that nearly put Farrar into the crowd. Was it as mad as Ferrari's move today? Possibly not, but it was two separate incidents in close succession.

Think of it like football. Renshaw committed two yellow card offences within about ten seconds of each other, so received two yellows = a red.

Ferrari committed an offence that some people feel was worthy of a straight red, but others felt should only be a yellow. Hence why he's still there, but Renshaw was ejected.

Two straight reds for me. One for the crash, which was as dangerous a move as I've seen in a sprint. Seriously, what did he expect to happen coming across at an angle like that? Another for the comments afterwards, which suggest that he'd endanger the well being of the entire peloton again, given half the chance.

In terms of the race, Cav shouldn't have any regrets - Goss was well clear up the road and out of sight. Good work by GE. In terms of Thursday, he probably regrets that he doesn't have Renshaw by his side anymore to put Ferrari into the barriers.

 

[El Pistolero]

Ah yes, the infamous Cav bullying.

He'll have to send another domestique to bully people then.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Ah yes, the infamous Cav bullying.

He'll have to send another domestique to bully people then.

Why do you hate Cav so much ?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

because cavendish is an *******?

 

[ultimobici]

because cavendish is an *******?

Only because he's not Dutch!

 

[Captain Sensible]

because cavendish is an *******?

******** ? Oh that explains it

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Only because he's not Dutch!

What a bs answer. I like many riders who aren't Dutch.
Cavendish is simply an @^%@#% he behaves like a total #$^$#^ and is a whiny @#$@#$#@

Get it?

 

[Captain Sensible]

What a bs answer. I like many riders who aren't Dutch.
Cavendish is simply an @^%@#% he behaves like a total #$^$#^ and is a whiny @#$@#$#@

Get it?

I understand if that's how you feel about him but is that worse than being a drug cheat ?

 

[mastersracer]

I understand if that's how you feel about him but is that worse than being a drug cheat ?

+1 - especially giving the 'I only used it once' defense.

 

[hrotha]

I understand if that's how you feel about him but is that worse than being a drug cheat ?

When everybody does something, moral responsibility is diluted. But not everybody is a jerk.