After years of reading the posts (not participating) on this site, I guess I can keep quiet no longer!!! Some of the views posted on this site are hysterical at times, at times I wonder do some members even follow the sport. Who doesn't love debate, but it's only fun when it's actually plausible.
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Thanks, but I'm actually interested in your list. What criteria did you use to construct it?King Boonen said:
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Most impressive of all time? Have you watched all of them? the ones from Merkx, Hinault and Anquetil?
Ok. Now is confirmed, you are trolling.Ramon Koran said:
Most impressive of all time? Have you watched all of them? the ones from Merkx, Hinault and Anquetil?
Sagan is waay too heavy right now to win on a climb like this. And Valverde/Kwiatkowski don't seem to be in top shape.
Gallopin vs. Martin. They both have a nice kick on the flat sections.
Gallopin vs. Martin. They both have a nice kick on the flat sections.
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No, no, no, it's still 3-1 for Nibali, weak field or not. When, or maybe I say IF, Froome increase his tally to 2, which is pretty early to state, you could make a case in Froome's favor, because it will be 2 Tours vs "weak field" Giro, Tour and Vuelta
PremierAndrew said:
No, no, no, it's still 3-1 for Nibali, weak field or not. When, or maybe I say IF, Froome increase his tally to 2, which is pretty early to state, you could make a case in Froome's favor, because it will be 2 Tours vs "weak field" Giro, Tour and Vuelta
Re: 2015 Tour de France Stage 8: Rennes-Mur de Bretagne, 181
I would say froome if this was a normal 3rd category climb but I just don't think froome will distance his rivals before the climb flattens out so someone like Rodriguez or Valverde will win that.
I would say froome if this was a normal 3rd category climb but I just don't think froome will distance his rivals before the climb flattens out so someone like Rodriguez or Valverde will win that.
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Normally I wouldn't respond to posts like this, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Cadel did not fluke his TdF or his WC he was the strongest rider in both races. He also has 2 other Tour podiums, and 1 each in the Giro and Vuelta.
Froome more explosive? Who beat Froome on Huy on stage 3? Purito, and who beat Purito to win Flèche Wallone in 2010? Cadel Evans
You can't claim Froome to have this Tour won, there's only been 7 stages.
Finally Froome has a long way to go to join the class of Cadel Evans.
/rant over
Ramon Koran said:
Normally I wouldn't respond to posts like this, but this is absolutely ridiculous. Cadel did not fluke his TdF or his WC he was the strongest rider in both races. He also has 2 other Tour podiums, and 1 each in the Giro and Vuelta.
Froome more explosive? Who beat Froome on Huy on stage 3? Purito, and who beat Purito to win Flèche Wallone in 2010? Cadel Evans
You can't claim Froome to have this Tour won, there's only been 7 stages.
Finally Froome has a long way to go to join the class of Cadel Evans.
/rant over
Re: 2015 Tour de France Stage 8: Rennes-Mur de Bretagne, 181
I have been jinxing everybody that I picked so far in this TdF (GC and stages), so I'll go with Tony Gallopin atop the Mur de Bretagne
. Sorry Tony...
I have been jinxing everybody that I picked so far in this TdF (GC and stages), so I'll go with Tony Gallopin atop the Mur de Bretagne
. Sorry Tony...
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In the last 5 years before this Tour, Froome has won only 1 GT, just like a lot of others, Nibali won 3, Contador 6.
Oops
Ramon Koran said:
In the last 5 years before this Tour, Froome has won only 1 GT, just like a lot of others, Nibali won 3, Contador 6.
Oops
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i'm the same, long time lurker.
I love the site, well forum, but what i hate is that every thread turns into a petty squabble - it gets so boring reading the same arguments. I wish it could stay on topic a bit more.
But even so, still love the site
Jim2784 said:
i'm the same, long time lurker.
I love the site, well forum, but what i hate is that every thread turns into a petty squabble - it gets so boring reading the same arguments. I wish it could stay on topic a bit more.
But even so, still love the site
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At least I know I'm not the only one It's like the Queen Vic at times, but ya sometimes it can be fun!!!
HarryTheHedgehog said:
At least I know I'm not the only one
It's like the Queen Vic at times, but ya sometimes it can be fun!!!
dan martin, on huuy he got going too late, this longer type climb and better run in suits him to get a half decent spot so he can claim victory
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My thoughts exactly.
And he's been saving himself for this stage: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/07/martin-hunting-stage-win-on-mur-de-bretagne/
manafana said:
My thoughts exactly.
And he's been saving himself for this stage: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/07/martin-hunting-stage-win-on-mur-de-bretagne/
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Same for me. Have followed the forums for years, and with each passing season have debated about getting an account. This year, the promise of a great TdF was too much to resist. Who doesn't love adding their two cents?
HarryTheHedgehog said:
Same for me. Have followed the forums for years, and with each passing season have debated about getting an account. This year, the promise of a great TdF was too much to resist. Who doesn't love adding their two cents?
Martin has to be a favorite for a stage like this. As well as Purito, although I believe he will be more heavily marked after winning in Huy. Valverde has to show well here to salvage a first week where most experts thought he'd win a couple times. He's been conspicuously absent in finales... Froome will want to be near the front, as always. He just can't help himself when the road goes up. Contador the X Factor, as his form is still a little bit of a question mark. Will make for some exciting viewing.
I bet Gallopin goes early and gets caught by Martin in the last few meters. 2 second gap to a group containing the favorites.
I bet Gallopin goes early and gets caught by Martin in the last few meters. 2 second gap to a group containing the favorites.
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That's a very helpful post. Really like Gallopin for this stage. It's been his target.
Sasquatch said:
That's a very helpful post. Really like Gallopin for this stage. It's been his target.
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Certainly everyone loves adding their two cents, welcome aboard y'all. It's just when people start throwing down their two cent pieces every minute that it gets a little unbearable
In answer to the topic raised in this thread of 'who is the worst GT winner', Pereiro is almost certainly not the answer. The TdF it's undoubtedly Roger Walkowiak, which was even more of a fluke than Pereiro. He had never won anything of note (and didn't really after), but got gifted 18 minutes and benefitted from top riders refusing to work together because they didn't want each other to win. Similar to Pereiro, he had the form of his life and kept the jersey unexpectedly. While Pereiro had had a top 10 in GTs before and after, Walkowiak had a 2nd in the Dauphine and that was it. So whereas Pereiro winning the Tour was like Arroyo almost winning the Giro (and let's face it, Pereiro actually 'almost' won the Tour as well), Walkowiak was like, say, Inigo Landaluze winning the Tour. Or Vladimir Karpets. Or Kim Kirchen.
But if you want to look at 'worst GT winner' overall, just look at the history of the Vuelta. Aitor Gonzales, Angel Casero, Eric Cartioux, or perhaps the most egregious of all, the sprinter Freddy Maertens (although he, like Sean Kelly, was a great rider, it's just ludicrous that they won GTs). There are a few examples if you look through the winners' list of the Giro too, and especially in the Giro or Vuelta before 1950 or so, but I'd say the 'worst' (in terms of lack of any accomplishment for the rest of their careers, and the field they were competing against) would have to be someone from the above list.
TI-Raleigh said:
Certainly everyone loves adding their two cents, welcome aboard y'all. It's just when people start throwing down their two cent pieces every minute that it gets a little unbearable
In answer to the topic raised in this thread of 'who is the worst GT winner', Pereiro is almost certainly not the answer. The TdF it's undoubtedly Roger Walkowiak, which was even more of a fluke than Pereiro. He had never won anything of note (and didn't really after), but got gifted 18 minutes and benefitted from top riders refusing to work together because they didn't want each other to win. Similar to Pereiro, he had the form of his life and kept the jersey unexpectedly. While Pereiro had had a top 10 in GTs before and after, Walkowiak had a 2nd in the Dauphine and that was it. So whereas Pereiro winning the Tour was like Arroyo almost winning the Giro (and let's face it, Pereiro actually 'almost' won the Tour as well), Walkowiak was like, say, Inigo Landaluze winning the Tour. Or Vladimir Karpets. Or Kim Kirchen.
But if you want to look at 'worst GT winner' overall, just look at the history of the Vuelta. Aitor Gonzales, Angel Casero, Eric Cartioux, or perhaps the most egregious of all, the sprinter Freddy Maertens (although he, like Sean Kelly, was a great rider, it's just ludicrous that they won GTs). There are a few examples if you look through the winners' list of the Giro too, and especially in the Giro or Vuelta before 1950 or so, but I'd say the 'worst' (in terms of lack of any accomplishment for the rest of their careers, and the field they were competing against) would have to be someone from the above list.
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I am a long time stalker as well.. I actually had a old profile but it died out from inactivity.. I did have a few post on it.. I think its very entertaining to read the forum and sometimes there is good knowledge in it.. I also see some of the same people I saw 5 years ago posting the same things but thats mostly in the clinic... now its just another name than before.... it changes now and then...
But its nice to see I am not a lone stalker...
For tomorrow I think Gallopin or Simon Yates will take the win.
HarryTheHedgehog said:
I am a long time stalker as well.. I actually had a old profile but it died out from inactivity.. I did have a few post on it.. I think its very entertaining to read the forum and sometimes there is good knowledge in it.. I also see some of the same people I saw 5 years ago posting the same things
but thats mostly in the clinic... now its just another name than before.... it changes now and then... But its nice to see I am not a lone stalker...
For tomorrow I think Gallopin or Simon Yates will take the win.
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