2016 Tour de France, Info & Discussion

[Valv.Piti]

Re:

I'm particularly interested in the fight for white.

Same, correct me here:

Barguil
Keldermania
A. Yates
Balaphillabert
Meintjens
and.. ?

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

I'm particularly interested in the fight for white.

Same, correct me here:

Barguil
Keldermania
A. Yates
Balaphillabert
Meintjens
and.. ?

I was going to say Alaphilippe and then I read that.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I have to come up with something better than that, tho..

But who is missing? I think that's all. Could turn out to be a really good competition like in 2014 when Nairo isn't there more.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re:

I have to come up with something better than that, tho..

But who is missing? I think that's all. Could turn out to be a really good competition like in 2014 when Nairo isn't there more.

I really can't see anyone beyond these riders.

 

[infeXio]

Re: Re:

I have to come up with something better than that, tho..

But who is missing? I think that's all. Could turn out to be a really good competition like in 2014 when Nairo isn't there more.

I really can't see anyone beyond these riders.

Is Aru ineligible eventhough he's actually 25 by the start of the tour (by a whole day!)?

 

[roundabout]

Re: Re:

I have to come up with something better than that, tho..

But who is missing? I think that's all. Could turn out to be a really good competition like in 2014 when Nairo isn't there more.

I really can't see anyone beyond these riders.

Is Aru ineligible eventhough he's actually 25 by the start of the tour (by a whole day!)?

Unless the rules have changed a rider needs to be born in 1991 or later to be eligible.

 

[saganftw]

i like that everybody important in cycling will be there,nobody is injured,nobody is banned...it might actually be a good competetive TdF for a change

 

[infeXio]

Re: Re:

I have to come up with something better than that, tho..

But who is missing? I think that's all. Could turn out to be a really good competition like in 2014 when Nairo isn't there more.

I really can't see anyone beyond these riders.

Is Aru ineligible eventhough he's actually 25 by the start of the tour (by a whole day!)?

Unless the rules have changed a rider needs to be born in 1991 or later to be eligible.

Alright - cheers!

 

[Oliwright]

Re: 2016 Tour de France Discussion

Top 2 is easy for this:

Froome and Quintana and i don't think anyone knows which way it will go. If I had to guess i think Quintana might just edge it.

3rd: Contador, Aru and Porte are surely the only ones capable assuming no crashes and illnesses.

 

[Alexandre B.]

AG2R start-list (7/9) :
Jan Bakelants (BEL)
Romain Bardet (FRA)
Mikaël Chérel (FRA)
Cyril Gautier (FRA)
Alexis Gougeard (FRA)
Domenico Pozzovivo (ITA)
Alexis Vuillermoz (FRA)

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Bora-Argon 18:

Shane Archbold (NZL)
Jan Bárta (CZE)
Cesare Benedetti (ITA)
Sam Bennett (IRL)
Emanuel Buchmann (GER)
Bartosz Huzarski (POL)
Patrick Konrad (AUT)
Andreas Schillinger (GER)
Paul Voß (GER)

 

[Escarabajo]

Do we need a Tour de France start list thread?

 

[RattaKuningas]

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

 

[May0maniac]

Re:

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

Aru
Nibali
Rosa
Tiralongo
Probably Lulu instead of Kangert
Cataldo
Fuglsang
Lutsenko
Gruzdev or Grivko

 

[RattaKuningas]

Re: Re:

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

Aru
Nibali
Rosa
Tiralongo
Probably Lulu instead of Kangert
Cataldo
Fuglsang
Lutsenko
Gruzdev or Grivko

Thanks for posting it.
I hope that Kangert makes it because if he doesn't then there would be 0 Estonians in Tour this year. Kangert has usually been in "team Nibali" but Aru is leader this year and so they probably pick what Aru wants.

 

[May0maniac]

Re: Re:

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

Aru
Nibali
Rosa
Tiralongo
Probably Lulu instead of Kangert
Cataldo
Fuglsang
Lutsenko
Gruzdev or Grivko

Thanks for posting it.
I hope that Kangert makes it because if he doesn't then there would be 0 Estonians in Tour this year. Kangert has usually been in "team Nibali" but Aru is leader this year and so they probably pick what Aru wants.

Yeah, but Kangert already rode the Giro and I want him to be fresh for Olympics, Rein and Tanel could surprise people.
I'm not too happy about the fact that Patrick Konrad is riding the Tour as his first gt, he seems to be pretty good in the heat, the Vuelta would be a great first gt for him (I view him as someone who could become a rider who's able to get a top 10 on gc in the Vuelta).

 

[liamito]

Re: Re:

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

Aru
Nibali
Rosa
Tiralongo
Probably Lulu instead of Kangert
Cataldo
Fuglsang
Lutsenko
Gruzdev or Grivko

Thanks for posting it.
I hope that Kangert makes it because if he doesn't then there would be 0 Estonians in Tour this year. Kangert has usually been in "team Nibali" but Aru is leader this year and so they probably pick what Aru wants.

Lulu was really strong in Dauphiné. If Aru wasn't that poor, Luisle even might have been the difference between Froome or Bardet winning the race.

 

[RattaKuningas]

Re: Re:

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

Aru
Nibali
Rosa
Tiralongo
Probably Lulu instead of Kangert
Cataldo
Fuglsang
Lutsenko
Gruzdev or Grivko

Thanks for posting it.
I hope that Kangert makes it because if he doesn't then there would be 0 Estonians in Tour this year. Kangert has usually been in "team Nibali" but Aru is leader this year and so they probably pick what Aru wants.

Yeah, but Kangert already rode the Giro and I want him to be fresh for Olympics, Rein and Tanel could surprise people.
I'm not too happy about the fact that Patrick Konrad is riding the Tour as his first gt, he seems to be pretty good in the heat, the Vuelta would be a great first gt for him (I view him as someone who could become a rider who's able to get a top 10 on gc in the Vuelta).

Only reason why I have little bit of hope that Kangert might race the Tour is that he will miss Estonian National Championships because he has to train in high mountains with Astana and Nibali. But he said that he doesn't know if he is among chosen 9 riders or not.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Re:

Bora-Argon 18:

Shane Archbold (NZL)
Jan Bárta (CZE)
Cesare Benedetti (ITA)
Sam Bennett (IRL)
Emanuel Buchmann (GER)
Bartosz Huzarski (POL)
Patrick Konrad (AUT)
Andreas Schillinger (GER)
Paul Voß (GER)

That's a couple of lead outs for Bennett, everyone else trying to get into the break every day squad. Which is normal enough for a Wildcard team, but interesting in this case because it signals the death of Dominik Nerz's abortive career as a GC rider. That was a disaster of a signing for both team and rider.

It's possible that Buchmann or Konrad might be allowed to ride for GC, but I hope not. Both would be much better off trying to get into breaks on climbing days rather than anonymously fighting for 17th.

Nice to see the Flying Mullett ride the Tour. No Muhlberger, presumably because he's too young and they want to bring him on carefully. No Poestlberger either, presumably because despite being a bit older he is also inexperienced at the top level and there are other all rounder types ahead of him in the pecking order.

 

[mihhint]

Re: Re:

Anyone knows when we might see Astana lineup?

Aru
Nibali
Rosa
Tiralongo
Probably Lulu instead of Kangert
Cataldo
Fuglsang
Lutsenko
Gruzdev or Grivko

Thanks for posting it.
I hope that Kangert makes it because if he doesn't then there would be 0 Estonians in Tour this year. Kangert has usually been in "team Nibali" but Aru is leader this year and so they probably pick what Aru wants.

Yeah, but Kangert already rode the Giro and I want him to be fresh for Olympics, Rein and Tanel could surprise people.
I'm not too happy about the fact that Patrick Konrad is riding the Tour as his first gt, he seems to be pretty good in the heat, the Vuelta would be a great first gt for him (I view him as someone who could become a rider who's able to get a top 10 on gc in the Vuelta).

Only reason why I have little bit of hope that Kangert might race the Tour is that he will miss Estonian National Championships because he has to train in high mountains with Astana and Nibali. But he said that he doesn't know if he is among chosen 9 riders or not.

I'd be very surprised if Kangert is dropped from Astana Tour team. His consistency as dom in GTs has been remarkable and all I've heard he is highly regarded in Astana. To have a guy like him prepare for the Giro Tour double as season goals again this year and then just cut him..I just don't see why Astana would cut one of their most, if not the most reliable GT domestiques from their Tour line-up.

 

[bikinggirl]

Re: Re:

So. What have we learnt from the Dauphine?

Not a whole lot.

Froome and Contador: even. But Sky is much better than Tinkov.

For the riders on Serious Sam's graph:

Pinot and Aru, have work to do, that's not a haiku .

Porte? He looked good, but he seems to have bad karma.

Brigitte Bardet (looks good on a bike ) and Balaphilippe can dynamite things, are not real threats, but let one of them in a break and take 5 minutes, and he'll be in yellow on Bastille Day and dangerous.

The plot thickens. Depending on your allegiance, you can find hope. Nothing really new...

What a bunch of rubbish, what is wrong with you?

 

[Alexandre B.]

Fortuneo - Vital Concept (7/9) ->

Eduardo Sepulveda (ARG)
Chris Anker Sørensen (DEN)
Florian Vachon (FRA)
Anthony Delaplace (FRA)
Pierre-Luc Périchon (FRA)
Vegard Breen (NOR)
Daniel McLay (GBR) -> barring injury

 

[Alexandre B.]

IAM Cycling ->

Stef Clement (NED)
Jérôme Coppel (FRA)
Dries Devenyns (BEL)
Martin Elmiger (SWI)
Mathias Frank (SWI)
Reto Hollenstein (SWI)
Sondre Holst Enger (NOR)
Oliver Naesen (BEL)
Jarlinson Pantano (COL)

 

[GP Blanco]

Re: Re:

Bora-Argon 18:

Shane Archbold (NZL)
Jan Bárta (CZE)
Cesare Benedetti (ITA)
Sam Bennett (IRL)
Emanuel Buchmann (GER)
Bartosz Huzarski (POL)
Patrick Konrad (AUT)
Andreas Schillinger (GER)
Paul Voß (GER)

That's a couple of lead outs for Bennett, everyone else trying to get into the break every day squad. Which is normal enough for a Wildcard team, but interesting in this case because it signals the death of Dominik Nerz's abortive career as a GC rider. That was a disaster of a signing for both team and rider.

Maybe he is aiming at the Vuelta.

 

[Oliwright]

Re: 2016 Tour de France Discussion & Info

Cycling Weekly's Start list for the Tour:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/tour-de-france/tour-de-france-2016-start-list-230321

Interesting points:

Sky: They seem to have Kwiat down to start despite illness

Trek: Frank Schleck is down to go apparently.

Couldn't see any other note worthy mentions.