27 march E3 prijs Harelbeke

[Bushman]

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Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Because non of his teammates could be expected to beat the likes of Kristoff and Degenkolb.

 

[sir fly]

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Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

 

[TMP402]

There were comments yesterday about Tinkoff having too hard a training regime - perhaps we just saw another manifestation of that.

 

[hfer07]

Big Congrats to "G". Longing for that elusive big victory. Very well deserved for him. He's truly the only SKY rider that I like a lot.

Great ride for Stybar

Sagan once again showing he's not good enough to pull the winning performance on the big races.

 

[sir fly]

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Great ride by Thomas, two decisive moves. Strongest rider wins today.
Excellent race.

Exactly.
He made and won the race.

 

[Bushman]

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third place should be much more fair for Sagan. But anyway wrong tactic by TS again. 40 km in headwind for Sagan? NO way. He is no Cance.

But would he have beaten Kristoff and Degenkolb in a sprint? Better chance staudinger out in front IMO.

 

[Akuryo]

Finally Trentin getting his form back. Crashed in February and was lacking results until now. Great for him to get the season going. Will he win a Tour stage for the third year in a row?

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

Given that Trentin won the minor sprint, they definitely had a chance. That being said, I would have bet on Stybar with 5k to go.

 

[Bushman]

Impressive by Thomas, chapeau. What a rider. One of the only riders from Sky that I like.

 

[dicanio_michael]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

I have faith on Vandenberg playing around at the front

I know what he means, Thomas obviously did less turns the last 10k, and so should Stybar. He just pulled too much.

 

[Bushman]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

Given that Trentin won the minor sprint, they definitely had a chance. That being said, I would have bet on Stybar with 5k to go.

Thats easy to say now. Would you honestly rate Trentins chances vs Degenkolb Kristoff higher than Stybar vs Sagan and Thomas?

 

[Akuryo]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

I have faith on Vandenberg playing around at the front

I know what he means, Thomas obviously did less turns the last 10k, and so should Stybar. He just pulled too much.

If they both had stopped taking turns they would've been caught. Sagan was cooked, remember?

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Big Congrats to "G". Longing for that elusive big victory. Very well deserved for him. He's truly the only SKY rider that I like a lot.

Great ride for Stybar

Sagan once again showing he's not good enough to pull the winning performance on the big races.

He won the race last year. What's your point?

Obviously he pulled too much today and that eventually cost him a cramp in the legs. Good ride from him.

 

[MatParker117]

G now the favourite for the RvV?

 

[glassmoon]

Stybar could've won this... if he wasn't stupid and counting on Sagan.

 

[Jspear]

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Stybar could've won this... if he wasn't stupid and counting on Sagan.

Nah...still wouldn't have been able to stay up with G. He was the strongest...Stybar just would have been several seconds closer.

 

[DFA123]

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Stybar could've won this... if he wasn't stupid and counting on Sagan.

It wasn't stupid, it was a tough call to make. If he'd have closed the gap and brought Sagan with him, then got outsprinted he would have been called foolish. Without knowing Sagan's condition, he had to really let him try to close the gap.

He went over the top of Sagan pretty quickly when he realised he was cooked, but by then Thomas was gone.

 

[dicanio_michael]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

I have faith on Vandenberg playing around at the front

I know what he means, Thomas obviously did less turns the last 10k, and so should Stybar. He just pulled too much.

If they both had stopped taking turns they would've been caught. Sagan was cooked, remember?

I don't mean totally stopped, but Stybar and Sagan still doing 10s each turn, and Thomas has reduced to like 5s, which was a good rest for him.

Anyway, Thomas was super strong today. Even if Stybar not waited Sagan at the end, Thomas could still probably distanced him.

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

Given that Trentin won the minor sprint, they definitely had a chance. That being said, I would have bet on Stybar with 5k to go.

Thats easy to say now. Would you honestly rate Trentins chances vs Degenkolb Kristoff higher than Stybar vs Sagan and Thomas?

How much of a numbers advantage do they need before the regular tactics that apply to everyone else apply to Etixx? Would a Skyborg have been taking pulls if he had numerical team superiority according to his ALU and other co-processors?

 

[TMP402]

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G now the favourite for the RvV?

He's at the top table now, but probably still equal with Vanmarcke, Stybar, Sagan and GVA (if he isn't hurt from today).

If he has similar form to today, then he can have a very good chance of a win, but Vanmarcke might finally have luck go for him.

 

[Akuryo]

Yep, pretty much this. Pains me as a fan of the Belgian squad to say this, but Thomas was just too strong today. But then again, at least this time it wasn't because of failed team tactics.

 

[DFA123]

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G now the favourite for the RvV?

He's at the top table now, but probably still equal with Vanmarcke, Stybar, Sagan and GVA (if he isn't hurt from today).

I'd add Terpstra to that. He was quiet today, but only because he didn't really get to play his hand with Stybar at the front. I could see him possibly winning solo from a small group, similarly to how Thomas did today.

Can't see Sagan winning - he just doesn't seem to have the necessary power after a long hard, race these days.

 

[Bushman]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

Given that Trentin won the minor sprint, they definitely had a chance. That being said, I would have bet on Stybar with 5k to go.

Thats easy to say now. Would you honestly rate Trentins chances vs Degenkolb Kristoff higher than Stybar vs Sagan and Thomas?

How much of a numbers advantage do they need before the regular tactics that apply to everyone else apply to Etixx? Would a Skyborg have been taking pulls if he had numerical team superiority according to his ALU and other co-processors?

Numerical advantage? So you would suggest that Trentin, Terpstra or Vandenbergh could escape the chase group?

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Re: Re:

Why was Stybar taking turns at the front when he had 11 and a half teammates in the chasing group 30 seconds back?

Don't tell me you believe Etixx had a better chance against Kristoff and Dengenkolb than with Stybar from the front group?

Given that Trentin won the minor sprint, they definitely had a chance. That being said, I would have bet on Stybar with 5k to go.

Thats easy to say now. Would you honestly rate Trentins chances vs Degenkolb Kristoff higher than Stybar vs Sagan and Thomas?

...That being said, I would have bet on Stybar with 5k to go.

 

[Bushman]

Can't see Terpstra winning Flanders, he needs flat pavees not cobbled climbs.