4th Mont Ventoux Dénivelé Challenge(1.1) - June 14th

[DJ Sprtsch]

Chavez to Storer *Hey, can't you ride a bit faster? I really want to win today'

 

[Samamba]

Storer is pretty erratic, not the easiest rider to judge the overall level on (although that's true for quite a few people in this race). In any case, Guerreiro could win by over a minute at the rate this is going which is pretty crazy for a rider like him even in a 1.1 race field.

yeah definitely a really strong performance. Good for EF, they needed a positive. Wouldn't be surprised if the teams gets a lot of good results in a short time now.

Chavez is actually just on a training ride in Storers wheel tho.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Honestly, while I like to see more pure climbing one day races, this feels quite pointless the second year in a row you basically have early moves and the rest is like a time trial.
I'd rather see them include the Ventoux in the Dauphine as a MTT again.

 

[Samamba]

Honestly, while I like to see more pure climbing one day races, this feels quite pointless the second year in a row you basically have early moves and the rest is like a time trial.
I'd rather see them include the Ventoux in the Dauphine as a MTT again.

Ofcourse, it's to easy to make the difference if you're the strongest in such a hard race. They're not super entertaining because of that.

 

[Samamba]

Lol Chavez could've gone so much faster.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Honestly, while I like to see more pure climbing one day races, this feels quite pointless the second year in a row you basically have early moves and the rest is like a time trial.
I'd rather see them include the Ventoux in the Dauphine as a MTT again.

IMO a pure climbing one-day race should either finish on a mid-length climb (e.g. old Milano-Torino route, Subida a Urkiola back in the day) or finish after the hardest climb if it's as brutal as this one (e.g. Ötztaler 5500 the year they held a pro version).

 

[Samamba]

Whole EF going for GC in the Tour just to completely crack in the last week coming up.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Today shows that Vaughters needs to set aside his massive ego and have his team do more non-WT races. They should stay up easily with better calendar planning.

It's also their first win since February (!).

 

[Samamba]

Today shows that Vaughters needs to set aside his massive ego and have his team do more non-WT races. They should stay up easily with better calendar planning.

They might just stay up easily like this too tho. I agree that should've done a bit more. But there aren't a lot of these hard ones tho. Mercan would've been a good one to do. They simply don't really have the guys to do a lot of these French/Belgian races or they needs to use Bettiol and Valgren for them but.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

They might just stay up easily like this too tho. I agree that should've done a bit more. But there aren't a lot of these hard ones tho. Mercan would've been a good one to do. They simply don't really have the guys to do a lot of these French/Belgian races or they needs to use Bettiol and Valgren for them but.

They could also just add some shorter stage races to their calendar. Stuff like Asturias would just have been easy points.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

No points for ISN

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Isn't Guerreiro also really good in the heat?

Yes

 

[Samamba]

They could also just add some shorter stage races to their calendar. Stuff like Asturias would just have been easy points.

They did Gran Camino if I remember correctly, but I agree. Some minor tweaks to their calendar and they were probably 1000 points ahead of the relegation zone. They're just too good to drop out imo.

Clear winner of the UCI points race today. Movistar 40 points but they can't be happy with it. Cofidis 50, allright I guess. Israel... Well if Fuglsang fails this week they're in big throuble (I don't think he fails tho).

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Ofcourse, it's to easy to make the difference if you're the strongest in such a hard race. They're not super entertaining because of that.

IMO a pure climbing one-day race should either finish on a mid-length climb (e.g. old Milano-Torino route, Subida a Urkiola back in the day) or finish after the hardest climb if it's as brutal as this one (e.g. Ötztaler 5500 the year they held a pro version).

Yeah, the probleme with Ventoux is that you can't do anything to make it more interesting before the final ascent because it's so isolated.
No other big passes around, too much flat in between if you go twice, no point for a descent attack because it's not technical. Kinda limited options really.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

No points for ISN

They should have sent Woods to the Baby Giro instead

 

[sir fly]

EF challenging JV, right?

Number of quality options in the team as always, just need to assemble them properly.

 

[Samamba]

They should have sent Woods to the Baby Giro instead

They actually send Berwicht to a 2.2 race last month...

 

[Samu Cuenca]

They actually send Berwicht to a 2.2 race last month...

Yes, and it made him one of their 10 best scoring riders.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Yeah, the probleme with Ventoux is that you can't do anything to make it more interesting before the final ascent because it's so isolated.
No other big passes around, too much flat in between if you go twice, no point for a descent attack because it's not technical. Kinda limited options really.

The fun thing to do would be Ventoux from Malaucène, descend to Sault, climb Col de Notre Dame des Abeilles via the Mur de Monieux, descend to Bedoin, climb the classic side up to Chalet Reynard, then repeat the descent into Sault and the ascent of Monieux-Abeilles and finish in Bedoin.

This would be the final climb:

The problem is that the commercial lure of the classic MTF is too big for them to move the finish away from it.

 

[KZD]

Guerreiro has been in sublime shape lately, great news for EF

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Guy Niv in 14th, ISN's best finisher

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I like this race, it just need a slightly better startlist to be really fun. I think they should organize it 1 day later so there is 2 easy days instead of just 1 after the Dauphine.

 

[search]

Whole EF going for GC in the Tour just to completely crack in the last week coming up.

so far it doesn't really look like Uran is peaking too early, to be honest

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Guy Niv in 14th, ISN's best finisher

...but still ahead of the likes of Valverde, Skjelmose and Tolhoek.

Woods still hasn't finished... (edit: ah, there he is, 13 minutes down).

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

WTF is Skjelmose doing lately?