Teams & Riders Bahrain

[Parker]

That blogpost is so conspiratorial and lacking in evidence that it could've been written by Vayer himself.

It says 'to be continued'. Maybe it will be, maybe it won't. I guess they are waiting for an audience.

But this investigation only doing raids a round the time of the Tour seems a little odd to me.

 

[pastronef]

So then it has nothing to do with WADA or the UCI.

well, Wada will step in if -banned- substances will be found

 

[yaco]

well, Wada will step in if -banned- substances will be found

The problem with the reporting is that it's inferring any substances found are on WADA's banned list, when this may not be the case.

 

[BR2]

I don't think they are looking for some grey area stuff. That might be all they find, but obviously the search began some years ago and is a wider operation after Aderlass, looking into the direction of Erzen and Slovenian-Italian cycling.

 

[pastronef]

2nd part of the Vayer-Festinaboy hoax saga https://incyclingveritas.wordpress.com/

 

[Rico044]

2nd part of the Vayer-Festinaboy hoax saga https://incyclingveritas.wordpress.com/

I just finished reading that blog. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. The TLDR is: anon guy creates fake account claiming to be part of Fancy Bears. They present some bogus claims to Thierry who seems to bite on some of the fake stories. The anon person publishes all of their emails with Thierry in an attempt to make Thierry look bad, but honestly it didn't really have that effect with me. Multiple time Thierry turns down money and even challenges some of the doping claims the anon was making. The only thing that looks bad for Thierry is when the anon convinced him that he had the UAE manager's phone bugged, and asked him to tweet about a fake doping product in an attempt to get UAE to talk.

Then the anon person goes on to completely speculate that Thierry is mad about being duped and again speculates that he believes that Thierry thinks Bahrain is behind the anon account that duped Thierry; therefore, the whole crusade against Bahrain is due to Thierry getting revenge for the fake emails.

Like I said....the whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[Netserk]

I just finished reading that blog. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. The TLDR is: anon guy creates fake account claiming to be part of Fancy Bears. They present some bogus claims to Thierry who seems to bite on some of the fake stories. The anon person publishes all of their emails with Thierry in an attempt to make Thierry look bad, but honestly it didn't really have that effect with me. Multiple time Thierry turns down money and even challenges some of the doping claims the anon was making. The only thing that looks bad for Thierry is when the anon convinced him that he had the UAE manager's phone bugged, and asked him to tweet about a fake doping product in an attempt to get UAE to talk.

Then the anon person goes on to completely speculate that Thierry is mad about being duped and again speculates that he believes that Thierry thinks Bahrain is behind the anon account that duped Thierry; therefore, the whole crusade against Bahrain is due to Thierry getting revenge for the fake emails.

Like I said....the whole thing is ridiculous.

Thank you for the English summary.

 

[kingjr]

I just finished reading that blog. Seems kind of ridiculous to me. The TLDR is: anon guy creates fake account claiming to be part of Fancy Bears. They present some bogus claims to Thierry who seems to bite on some of the fake stories. The anon person publishes all of their emails with Thierry in an attempt to make Thierry look bad, but honestly it didn't really have that effect with me. Multiple time Thierry turns down money and even challenges some of the doping claims the anon was making. The only thing that looks bad for Thierry is when the anon convinced him that he had the UAE manager's phone bugged, and asked him to tweet about a fake doping product in an attempt to get UAE to talk.

Then the anon person goes on to completely speculate that Thierry is mad about being duped and again speculates that he believes that Thierry thinks Bahrain is behind the anon account that duped Thierry; therefore, the whole crusade against Bahrain is due to Thierry getting revenge for the fake emails.

Like I said....the whole thing is ridiculous.

I would like to add to this what the guy himself says about his motivations. Translated with deepl.com.


"My aim was to discredit two investigators that I knew to be mediocre or even ill-intentioned, and at the same time to give credit to professional cyclists who are too often easily singled out."

(mon but était de décrédibiliser deux enquêteurs que je savais médiocres voire mal intentionnés, et de redonner par la même du crédit aux cyclistes professionnels trop souvent facilement montrés du doigt)


It should also be noted that the author himself points out that Vildary refused the money, saying "this is to his credit" (C’est à porter à son crédit)

 

[F_Cance]

even more convinced that the bahrain osteo is behind this blog. There is still no explanation what the "leaks" have to do with the Bahrain things a year later and still ongoing.

 

[samhocking]

The first two parts are really covering what happened, Vayer already published the emails and both Vayer & Vildary know they were duped/hoaxed. It depends what part 3 is really, but I think it's interesting the relationship Valdery has gathering information and relaying it Vayer who builds it into his twitter games of nonsense.

 

[pastronef]

It depends what part 3 is really, but I think it's interesting the relationship Valdery has gathering information and relaying it Vayer who builds it into his twitter games of nonsense.

is there gonna be a part 3? I don't know

 

[ppanther92]

Bahrain without magic juice is actually a really bad team.

 

[Ripper]

Bahrain without magic juice is actually a really bad team.

Not doing so well!

 

[ppanther92]

Mr. Zipper Mohoric already superdisappointing in the first week with quite some stages that suited him. And now Caruso more like top 20 material than podium. What a difference.

 

[Fergoose]

Mr. Zipper Mohoric already supe disappointing in the first week with quite some stages that suited him. And now Caruso mor like top 20 material than podium. What a difference.

Now now, as we have read in this thread there is no difference in Bahrain 2022 compared to 2021 that can't be explained by minor changes in form.

 

[Invicituz]

Cristian Salvato, the president of the ACCPI, has labelled the investigation into Bahrain Victorious as a witch hunt. Once upon a time, a Texan described USADA’s actions as a witch hunt.

 

[Cagalitroso]

Cristian Salvato, the president of the ACCPI, has labelled the investigation into Bahrain Victorious as a witch hunt. Once upon a time, a Texan described USADA’s actions as a witch hunt.

i always knew you couldnt trust the Association of Chief of Police of the Philippines Inc.

 

[Cagalitroso]

Now now, as we have read in this thread there is no difference in Bahrain 2022 compared to 2021 that can't be explained by minor changes in form.

it's not that... it's the psychological effect of being witch-hunted , yep

 

[Big Doopie]

Mr. Zipper Mohoric already superdisappointing in the first week with quite some stages that suited him. And now Caruso more like top 20 material than podium. What a difference.

agree 100%.

apparently back to their earlier career abilities. Caruso even used to do better when riding for a leader. Now that he is a leader, where’s that giro 2021 form?

Bahrain has been completely non-existent.

I wonder why.

rhetorical. Rhetorical.

 

[Fergoose]

At least it wasn't quite Bahrain Anonymous today, but LLS looked so tired I thought he was going to give up his seemingly stage winning attack 1km away from the final summit.

 

[PhiLiz]

After a guy in his early 30's having heart problems and a few cop visits later, LLS is now the best rider of the team half hour behind and slightly above the previous mountain goat Caruso...

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Caruso lost almost 30 minutes today.

He was 2nd overall in the Giro last year and won the Queen stage.

Bardet was 7th in the same Giro and is now competing for the podium in this Tour.

Meanwhile, no sign of Mohoric.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Funny isn't it, who were the riders that got popped, Caruso, Moho and Teuns?

Wright and Sanchez actually look pretty sharp, maybe it's not a full team thing?

 

[Luthor]

Bahrain nowhere to be seen this Tour. This is probably their real level, they're running clear given how many people are investigating them.

 

[ppanther92]

Caruso lost almost 30 minutes today.

He was 2nd overall in the Giro last year and won the Queen stage.

Bardet was 7th in the same Giro and is now competing for the podium in this Tour.

Meanwhile, no sign of Mohoric.

Indeed crazy. That does not reasonate well at Bahrain and the riders (especially Caruso and Mohoric) at all. Such a difference in performance.