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Nice article. Thanks.dimspace said:Worth a look
http://bikepure.org/2010/02/omerta/
unsheath said:Lost me at 'McQuaid should be commended....' Expected more insight from that organisation.
Escarabajo said:Nice article. Thanks.
It sounds like if it was taken from the Clinic. Maybe the members participate in this Forum actively.
OMERTA still lives, and probably stronger than before, just because every rider that have talked in the past has not been welcomed by the peloton. The day that a Whistleblower is welcomed by a high ranked team, that would be the time when OMERTA would be dead. Maybe never.
dimspace said:Worth a look
http://bikepure.org/2010/02/omerta/
No. Riccò is lambasted BECAUSE HE BROKE OMERTÁ...he's also a bit of a scumbag, but mostly it's the breaking-omertá thing.Far from riders keeping the code of silence, they have been very vocal in their disdain for Riccó and his behaviour. Mark Cavendish recently said “It’s like a parasite coming back into the sport. It’s not the fact of what he did, because everyone can make a mistake. But he doesn’t see it as a mistake. He’s not even sorry about it”. Robbie McEwen expressed a similar attitude toward Riccó recently commenting on his twitter account “Ricco – what a f@$king hypocrite. Just don’t come back you piece of ****”. It must be said that Riccó was quite unpopular before his misdemeanors but the outspoken nature of these rider’s comments is a refreshing change from the silent solidarity we had previously come to expect.
In addition, the UCI led by President Pat McQuaid must also be acknowledged for their anti-doping efforts. The introduction of the biological passport is a big step toward tackling doping.
Bzzzzzzzzt. Vino is a scapegoat. Why him? Because he's from the dirty doper nation of Kazakhstan, of course.There are still inconsistencies amongst attitudes toward riders returning from suspension. For instance why has Ivan Basso been given such an easy ride by the media and the rest of the peloton while Alexandre Vinokourov is constantly treated with disdain and abhorrence? The answer lies within the attitudes of the returning riders themselves.
Tell that to Bernhard Kohl.Doping is still a problem amongst professional cyclists and there are still riders willing to cheat. But if Bassons or Simeoni did now what they did before, they would be heralded rather than victimised.
Yeah. I'm not (necessarily) saying McEwen or Cav are ****ed at Ricco for breaking omertá, but that the overall negative sentiment in the peloton is much due to that. Ricco's is a special case though, because one, he's kind of a rat-faced *******, and two, because he didn't break omertá as much as not bothering to uphold it (i.e. not pretending dopers are just bad apples, "I made a mistake" etc.).msjett said:Interesting that they used the part about Robbie Mc calling Ricco a hypocrite - on RM's twitter the comment was linked to a CN story about Ricco dumping his girlfriend. Personally I think the comment was suggesting that Ricco was a hypocrite for ditching his girlfriend for getting done for exactly the same thing Ricco did then about the breaking the omerta.
msjett said:Interesting that they used the part about Robbie Mc calling Ricco a hypocrite - on RM's twitter the comment was linked to a CN story about Ricco dumping his girlfriend. Personally I think the comment was suggesting that Ricco was a hypocrite for ditching his girlfriend for getting done for exactly the same thing Ricco did then about the breaking the omerta.
blackcat said:if they really want to break the omerta, they would be calling out the return of that other guy who twitters.
Apart from Gerdemann, no one else called out his return.
the most hypocritical and meally mouthed is cos they got doperz on their memberlist.Digger said:Unless Mark, Bradley, Robbie et al start calling people like Vino, Basso, Frank and Lance the cheats they are, then this article is complete and utter bull.
Kerbdog said:Would any of you like to see a rider calling out another rider mid race & live on tv?? What about Wiggins getting in Vinokourovs face on a mountain stage & indicating to the camera that he Vinokourov was a doper? Or anyone else for that matter. Of course Wiggins goes on to win the stage. Obviously this wont happen but if cycling ever came so full circle that dopers got grief just from being in the actual peloton from others who were clean, well i for one would smile from ear to ear.
Yes im aware its fantasy, but one can dream.
Kerbdog said:Would any of you like to see a rider calling out another rider mid race & live on tv?? What about Wiggins getting in Vinokourovs face on a mountain stage & indicating to the camera that he Vinokourov was a doper? Or anyone else for that matter. Of course Wiggins goes on to win the stage. Obviously this wont happen but if cycling ever came so full circle that dopers got grief just from being in the actual peloton from others who were clean, well i for one would smile from ear to ear.
Yes im aware its fantasy, but one can dream.
Doping is still a problem amongst professional cyclists and there are still riders willing to cheat. But if Bassons or Simeoni did now what they did before, they would be heralded rather than victimised.
Digger said:I feel sorry for RR in one way. The only reason he's being singled out by other dopers is that he was an a** as a person. Nothing to do with doping. Robbie clean all his career - yeah right.
Bradley clean...no way. Either in this month's procycling or cycle sport he's talking again about his chances. He had an implied criticism for Garmin's DS at last year's tour, saying that Sky wouldn't have been caught out with the head wind split, because they'd warn the riders of turns ahead. The man's ungratefulness is beyond belief. JV said that not one team last year, other than Garmin, were offering him the money that Garmin were, in 2009. Getting back to the OP, this kind of articles make me more aware than ever about the Omerta. One person alone, currently active in the pro peleton, had the balls to question Lance's comeback. I can't think of even one current rider who has issues with Vino's comeback. As Kimmage said to Lance, and is a question, which could be asked to most current pros, 'what is it about dopers that you admire so much?'
blackcat said:Kimmage and Walsh dont get my tick tho. Why they only go Armstrong? Yeah, there are good reasons why StrongArm. But when Wigans just had a ridiculous result, that Walsh did not believe, and no way Kimmage would have believing, where were they? Where were they to call a spade?
Come on, those guys, I had faith in them. But they failed to call their own guys in the UK, and there are some Irish coming up to.
IntheMidwest said:I think from Cav and RM's perspective, when someone goes overboard and it's blatently obvious that their mega-jacked by the way that they attack and fly up hills (i.e. Ricco and Vino; DiLuca at the Giro - still scratching the head over Menchov), that's what makes these guys idiots and is ultimately seen as bad for the sport.