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It's not an assumption, it is the exact opposite. It's a restatement of the facts we have and a suggestion that it is unwise to start building a case based on a series of assumptions. The argument seems to be Geraint Thomas is a doper because Boner says he doped TdF cyclists. How is that a helpful way to proceed?
That is a genuine question.
It seems to me that if you make accusations, and you actually want to get somewhere with them, then you need a pretty solid case. Otherwise, what you end up doing when you lose the case through lack of coherent evidence is to actually strengthen the position of the accused, and give them the opportunity to present them self as the wronged party.
Far better to take what you can out of each individual circumstances, and keep looking out for more. In this case, what can be taken is the possibility that UKAD is either inept, or corrupt, or both.
Pursue that, rather than ruining what you have got by trying to overextend it, and then take the next step after.
sniper said:you're now overcomplicating the matter.kwikki said:thehog said:ebandit said:first....authenticate....how simple is that concept......................................
Mark L
That's what the Sunday Times did, authencate the story from the whistleblower by recording the doctor on tape.
It's very simple.
But that is an oversimplification. They authenticated that Boner was offering to administer and manage PEDS.
They did not authenticate Boner's claims about his client base.
It seems a little rash to start speculating as to who the "TdF" cyclist might be when we have no reason to believe that there actually was one beyond the words of Boner, but have some reasons to doubt Boner's claims.
there are all sorts of reasons to speculate.
UKAD and CADF should be target testing all British GT cyclists from now on. And send the samples to Cologne, not Lausanne.
What's the added value of this assumption?It is possible to believe that Dr Boner does not have any British TdF cyclists on his books, whilst simultaneously believing that somebody else does.
One can assume anything one wants, but if one wants to clean things up the only useful assumption is to assume guilt of all parties involved here and start criminal investigations. I wanna see drugs busts, people stepping down, athletes getting popped.
It's not gonna happen, but it should.
It's not an assumption, it is the exact opposite. It's a restatement of the facts we have and a suggestion that it is unwise to start building a case based on a series of assumptions. The argument seems to be Geraint Thomas is a doper because Boner says he doped TdF cyclists. How is that a helpful way to proceed?
That is a genuine question.
It seems to me that if you make accusations, and you actually want to get somewhere with them, then you need a pretty solid case. Otherwise, what you end up doing when you lose the case through lack of coherent evidence is to actually strengthen the position of the accused, and give them the opportunity to present them self as the wronged party.
Far better to take what you can out of each individual circumstances, and keep looking out for more. In this case, what can be taken is the possibility that UKAD is either inept, or corrupt, or both.
Pursue that, rather than ruining what you have got by trying to overextend it, and then take the next step after.
