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Teams & Riders Cian Uijtdebroeks - From the wetlands to the top of cycling

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Interesting discussion about the helmet and when and whether the UCI can change the rules, but getting lengthy and irrelevant to Uijtdebroecks, so I have moved those posts to a new thread. I hope I haven't rendered anything here incomprehensible in doing so.
Cian results, lots of uphill, would lead me to believe that on a BMX bike and a WW2 metal military helmet the guy is going well.
For me the UCI is making things worse because all the huge washtub helmets are on every team, should solve the " debate " " controversy " immediately after the race and not during these 2 week long events. It's as if the UCI is always asking for time to read their own rule book.. An umpire with a blank stare as millions wait for the call at home plate!! You can't read the rules as the dust is settling!! Every country has their version of the 3 Stooges
 
Smh, hes not had to pull or attack and has just followed in the wheels and then gets dropped by del toro. Make it make sense!
I for one was happy that Del Toro gapped him, didn't really understand why he just didn't respond? Del Toro attack was not that hard and UAE,Bora, and Visma riders were just waiting for Pidcock to pop, but overall Cian looks alright, impressive? Not yet, but certainly not embarrassing..
Spell correct has Visma as Vodka and Cian as Clan
 
He brought this level of fan interest in his performances on himself.

All is fair, i.e. he could have stayed at Bora as a promising prospect & had less pressure but he chose to go to Visma & throw Bora under a bus as well. That was his right. I can't fault his ambition either. He wants the best.

But on the flipside he's riding Catalunya with far more pressure than he would have had. I also find any comments which suggest he should be given time a bit funny considering how desperate Uijtdebroeks was to sign for a winning team immediately.

He wants results, now. So he should be judged accordingly.
 
He brought this level of fan interest in his performances on himself.

All is fair, i.e. he could have stayed at Bora as a promising prospect & had less pressure but he chose to go to Visma & throw Bora under a bus as well. That was his right. I can't fault his ambition either. He wants the best.

But on the flipside he's riding Catalunya with far more pressure than he would have had. I also find any comments which suggest he should be given time a bit funny considering how desperate Uijtdebroeks was to sign for a winning team immediately.

He wants results, now. So he should be judged accordingly.
Is this a reply to my post or somebody else, or just in general? You can judge him based on his current results. No problem. But to start making claims about his future as a GT rider after a bad day (losing 2 and a half minutes in bad weather to Pogacar) seems a liiiitle bit over the top. Or maybe people should revisit the 2019 Tour de Pologne to see an older Vingegaard implode. Or revisit the Evenepoel thread dated March '22, when he was all but declared dead and buried, 6 months before winning the Vuelta.
 
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Is this a reply to my post or somebody else, or just in general? You can judge him based on his current results. No problem. But to start making claims about his future as a GT rider after a bad day (losing 2 and a half minutes in bad weather to Pogacar) seems a liiiitle bit over the top. Or maybe people should revisit the 2019 Tour de Pologne to see an older Vingegaard implode. Or revisit the Evenepoel thread dated March '22, when he was all but declared dead and buried, 6 months before winning the Vuelta.

I'm generalizing in my previous post. It's just where he is at the moment, i.e. like a young football prospect with a few goals who 'acrimoniously' left an upper mid range club to sign for the champions. You've got to bang those goals in or else...

But seriously, he made this situation harder for himself. As far as I'm concerned, looking at his situation from the outside (& based on Attila Valter's comments, i.e. who said Uijtdebroeks told him Bora wanted him to sign a contract extension, which he refused, then he got spooked into thinking Bora wouldn't send him to a GT at all this season as retaliation so he asked to quit immediately: https://www.cyclismactu.net/news-cy...n-uijtdebroeks-avait-peur-que-bora-79239.html), I think he's way too impatient & wants everything right now immediately.

I mean make no mistake, this stage today was a litmus test of sorts for both Uijtdebroeks & Kuss as well. This is the real thing now, aka leadership in a WT race.
 
I'm generalizing in my previous post. It's just where he is at the moment, i.e. like a young football prospect with a few goals who 'acrimoniously' left an upper mid range club to sign for the champions. You've got to bang those goals in or else...

But seriously, he made this situation harder for himself. As far as I'm concerned, looking at his situation from the outside (& based on Attila Valter's comments, i.e. who said Uijtdebroeks told him Bora wanted him to sign a contract extension, which he refused, then he got spooked into thinking Bora wouldn't send him to a GT at all this season as retaliation so he asked to quit immediately: https://www.cyclismactu.net/news-cy...n-uijtdebroeks-avait-peur-que-bora-79239.html), I think he's way too impatient & wants everything right now immediately.

I mean make no mistake, this stage today was a litmus test of sorts for both Uijtdebroeks & Kuss as well. This is the real thing now, aka leadership in a WT race.
He was decent/good in Camino and Tirreno. Him changing teams does not suddenly make him older than he is. Him wanting to leave Bora does not mean he now has to perform in every single race.
Feel free to dismiss him, i'll just wait for the Giro to see whether he has stagnated since the the Vuelta.
 
It's early but so far Cian isn't benefiting from the change of environment. Giro should be more telling.
Climbing in Tirreno wasnt bad though. Maybe just suffered from the weather yesterday.

He just looks very "ordinary". He is the type of rider that just hangs on and is solid/consistent, for the most part. Bad ITT is a handicup on the best GC riders. However, his climbing and not having super bad days in the high mountains will probably make him have a good chance to finish in the top 10, for the most part.

He will have a hard time winning races though if not getting either so strong that he drops everyone, becoming more explosive or getting better in the ITTs.
 
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