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Marathoners have been killed by this virus. Fitness is not carte blanche. The majority of people in all subgroups survive the virus. That is true of most infections. You can post misinformation in this thread, but the truth is that you really don't know what you are talking about. Claiming that your ignorance is the fault of the experts is a conceit imo.Then we should all be dead by now considering the number of pathogens we're exposed to. A healthy immune system is quite an effective mechanism in fighting off and recovering from pathogens. Nutritionally sound food & exercise improve immune defense activity & metabolic health:
The compelling link between physical activity and the body's defense system
This review summarizes research discoveries within 4 areas of exercise immunology that have received the most attention from investigators: (1) acute …www.sciencedirect.com
The overwhelming majority of people infected who develope complications are the elderly and particularly those with underlying medical conditions.The healthy & fit are not succumbing to this virus.
Marathoners or marathoner? I found one who died from Covid - a 51 yr old male from NYC. In contrast, there was a 40 yr marathoner who died of the seasonal flu in 2018. And there's been other athletes, particularly very young ones, who have died of complications from the seasonal flu.
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Try googling Donny Fostner from Brookfield WI. A 34 year old marathoner with zero pre-existing conditions. Inconvenient for your continual downplaying of COVID-19. Again, suggesting that fitness is akin to viral resistance is wishful thinking.Marathoners or marathoner? I found one who died from Covid - a 51 yr old male from NYC. In contrast, there was a 40 yr marathoner who died of the seasonal flu in 2018. And there's been other athletes, particularly very young ones, who have died of complications from the seasonal flu.
Marathon runner dies two days after flu diagnosis
A 40-year-old mother in San Jose, Calif., died two days after catching the flu, the San Francisco Chronicle reported, citing local media. Katie Denise Oxley Thomas, who was considered healthy and l…
And what "misinformation" are you referring to? On this particular post, I linked the study from the Journal of Sport & Health Science that showed acute excercise improves immune function - that's misinformation?
Now if you're talking about the links from other medical experts, such as renowned pathologist Dr. Klaus Püschel, Prof Jean-Francois Toussaaint, Dr. Tengell, etc, - that's not misinformation. Those are professional opinions that you & others just don't agree with. IOW, it's bigotry when people are intolerant of other medical experts who have different opinions on this virus that what the MSM is reporting.
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The point is that one of us knows about infectious disease and the other doesn't have a clue. Remember how you were so sure chloroquine was going to be the game changer?Which one of us was right then? It is estimated that about 10% of the population has been infected with COVID-19 in the USA, resulting in about 225K excess deaths. The plan you and nomad prefer aims to kill about 6-7 times this amount. Do the math. The key point that you two miss is this is not an individual health problem. Most people who get the disease will not die*. But if your plan is to let the country go herd, a virus that kills only about 1 in 250 will cause death on a scale that we have not seen in the modern age of medicine. Your minimizing of this looming collective public health disaster is mind boggling. Especially after we have seen what this virus can do firsthand. People like you should be mandated to go to a hospital and see for yourself what is going on. Talk to the witnesses of this and then come back to the forum and talk about how this is so overrated.
A peer reviewed French study that lacked a control group. Which was brought to your attention at the time by me. The scientific flaws were obvious. It was worth examining, but you held out beyond the point where good evidence proved it didn't work.
I wonder if you can go through the people listed on places like the link below and say that now.
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Since March, it was pretty obvious that COVID was going to be the defining crisis of our generation. How we handle the crucible will influence the next 10-20 years of our society IMO. It is not going to go away in November. My view is that the best path forward is to minimize the number of infections before a vaccine arrives early next year by limiting super-spreader events, enforcing masks in the workplaces, and maximizing work from home where feasible.
Try googling Donny Fostner from Brookfield WI. A 34 year old marathoner with zero pre-existing conditions. Inconvenient for your continual downplaying of COVID-19. Again, suggesting that fitness is akin to viral resistance is wishful thinking.
I did and the report said he was not tested for Covid - so they're saying it's presumptive. But it could also be influenza as the symptoms are virtually identical including anosmia. I think it's important to have a confirmation in these deaths/serious cases...don't you? Remember the Calgary police officer case I posted where the physical fit 40 yr old suffered severe complications from the flu (H1N9) losing both legs. If he had not been tested and a presumptive Covid case was diagnosed the MSM would have been all over that.
Coronavirus eyed in death of Donny Fostner, New York trader from Wisconsin
A Wisconsin family is mourning the suspected coronavirus death of a 34-year-old man who moved to New York to start working as a trader.
And why wouldn't a healthy immune system be akin to viral resistance in many cases? (there are so many asymptomatic people both young & older). Certainly a high-functioning immune system would help with viral recovery and prevent complications in many cases.
It could very well be with all the false positives. There were 77 false positives with the just NFL last week. The lab in question has tested hundreds of thousands of people in the U.S. There were 3,700 false positives recently discovered in Sweden from a Chinese lab that sent out 35 million test kits to 180 different countries. If the NFL hadn't caught these false positives the MSM would be all over that screaming for the season to be cancelled!
Take a gas pump..or a bank teller..McDonald's window worker..pump says I got 10 gallons,I pay for it..next day car konks out..turns out pump reading was 10 gallons but only a gallon and a half came out..bank teller transferred money from checking to savings,you go out to eat or to the market to discover you have negative balances in all your accounts..teller transferred into someone else's account..
Order 2 Big Macs w fries and a chocolate shake, get home to open bag and discover a water ,used napkins and a half eaten fish sandwich..
Now imagine that this level of contempt,incompetence and stupidity was working in the US government officially giving out information and "assistance"
And the clowns were in charge of strategy and implementation..
that is our reality in the United States..
Check the facts back from February..see the action our government officials took when they were notified about Covid 19..
Warnings Ignored: A Timeline of Trump’s COVID-19 Response - The Bulwark
For ten weeks President Trump downplayed the threat of and ignored warnings about the potential severity of COVID-19 with a series of lies, exaggerations, and outright fabrications that have been well documented. And yet despite the video record of the president’s words, the White House is...
Take a gas pump..or a bank teller..McDonald's window worker..pump says I got 10 gallons,I pay for it..next day car konks out..turns out pump reading was 10 gallons but only a gallon and a half came out..bank teller transferred money from checking to savings,you go out to eat or to the market to discover you have negative balances in all your accounts..teller transferred into someone else's account..
Order 2 Big Macs w fries and a chocolate shake, get home to open bag and discover a water ,used napkins and a half eaten fish sandwich..
Now imagine that this level of contempt,incompetence and stupidity was working in the US government officially giving out information and "assistance"
And the clowns were in charge of strategy and implementation..
that is our reality in the United States..
Check the facts back from February..see the action our government officials took when they were notified about Covid 19..
Warnings Ignored: A Timeline of Trump’s COVID-19 Response - The Bulwark
For ten weeks President Trump downplayed the threat of and ignored warnings about the potential severity of COVID-19 with a series of lies, exaggerations, and outright fabrications that have been well documented. And yet despite the video record of the president’s words, the White House is...
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