Critérium du Dauphiné 2012; Stage 6: Saint-Alban-Leysse → Morzine (167km)

[barn yard]

Evans seems to me like he is riding just to race. And he is very relaxed about it.
Maybe few years back he wouldn't have done so.

i would agree with that

he has become a real racer's racer since the WC and the tour, a lot less pressure

plus its good to watch a 'big favourite' going for 5 or 10 seconds here and there rather than just accepting the loss and sitting in, have people already forgotten how much the giro this year was won/lost by?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Lol do you like have a mental issue?
I was just asking you a question?

It was very obvious what point I was making, and yet you decided to be ingenuous.

It was cute.

 

[rghysens]

More than USP they remind me of La Vie Claire 1986 with 3 top riders (BH, GL, AH) one super climber (Rutyman - sp?) and one ox (SB).

Oh yeah? Who of the sky team can you compare to Hinault, Lemond or Hampsten?

 

[Fetisoff]

was the part where cadel attacked technical??
If it was not that could explain why.

1. Didn't you see the video yesterday? The whole descent was technical.
2. I think the ticker was wrong yesterday, I don't think it was ever a minute they've gained.
3. Tony Martin is better climber than Nibbles and Menchov - CONFIRMED

 

[webvan]

Exactement - Criterium International, P-N, Fleche, LBL, Giro overall, Tour stages are nothing like a big race, like Philly Int.

USP did exactly what UKP did today; sprinters shredding the field on HC climb, multiple teammates present and keeping pace too high for other GC men to attack

Nice deflection to smear Lemond, too

Smearing Lemond ?! Ok, I won't bite, soon time for the TDS prologue.

 

[dlwssonic]

It was very obvious what point I was making, and yet you decided to be ingenuous.

It was cute.

Ok wiggins is the best ever and no one is gonna beat him at le tour. Happy now?

 

[Ripper]

Really? The fatigue must have hampered his mental faculties in that case, because it was obvious before his last attack that he couldn't win the stage any more, and couldn't gain 24 seconds on Rogers either (and why would you take risks before the Tour to finish seconds instead of third in the Dauphiné, something nobody will remember in a week).

Actually, I doubt it was "obvious" ... I am not sure you race? It may not have been clear where Martin was, and he did put time into Rogers, so he moved from 4th to 3rd.

TBH, I don' think he pulled major risks. Evans is technically a good bike handler. Most former MTB racers (and moto racers) I know can decend like rockets. Just 'cause it looks risky to you does not make it risky.

 

[webvan]

Oh yeah? Who of the sky team can you compare to Hinault, Lemond or Hampsten?

Haven't seen the GC yet apparently?

 

[dlwssonic]

i would agree with that

he has become a real racer's racer since the WC and the tour, a lot less pressure

plus its good to watch a 'big favourite' going for 5 or 10 seconds here and there rather than just accepting the loss and sitting in, have people already forgotten how much the giro this year was won/lost by?

Yup its the preparation for the tour.
I think he wants to try some things out before le tour and get some real action into his legs. I hope he does more of it in le tour.
Don't be surprised if he gives tomorrow a shot too. Its suits him well.

 

[rghysens]

Haven't seen the GC yet apparently?

Haven't seen their respective palmares apparently?

And yes... I'm fuming!

 

[The Sheep]

Of course Weening was good. But do we all believe this was a supersonic 6.5W/Kilo climb like all the Lance comparison nonsense?

If it was the Australian Institute of Sport has really earnt its reputation.

yeah it's the same weening that got dropped by Gesink 2 weeks ago

means Gesink is going to dominate

 

[cineteq]

was the part where cadel attacked technical??
If it was not that could explain why.

Evans attacked twice, at the beginning of the descent and later on when it got more narrow and technical.

 

[dlwssonic]

Evans attacked twice, at the beginning of the descent and later on when it got more narrow and technical.

Thanks. Nibali should have joined him.
But he doesn't have the form at all.

 

[Fetisoff]

Haven't seen the GC yet apparently?

Which GC are we referring to here? Last GT? It went Garmin-Katusha-Vacansoleil.

Last TDF? BMC-LEOPARD-LEOPARD

So what's the point you're trying to make here?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Ok wiggins is the best ever and no one is gonna beat him at le tour. Happy now?

I'd be happier if the tools claiming Evans created a 1 minute gap on a descent by force rather than latitude would admit they were talking horse****.


Wiggins will probably not win the Tour.

Evans will probably not win the Tour.

It's all very uncertain.

 

[Fetisoff]

Thanks. Nibali should have joined him.
But he doesn't have the form at all.

Hard to join someone, when you're dropped before the halfway point up the climb

 

[will10]

Thanks. Nibali should have joined him.
But he doesn't have the form at all.

What are you on about?

 

[dlwssonic]

Hard to join someone, when you're dropped before the halfway point up the climb

Yeah thats why i said he does not have the form.

 

[jens_attacks]

Quite a sedate race. Where's Jens with his stopwatch to tell exactly how sedate it was?

i already passed it here.

OMFG what a display by uk postal.wiggo doesn't need to attack not even a little bit i guess.all the hopes are in andy,cobo and rolland....

quintana that was just uber awesome class _O_ also on the descent,great win by a great rider

time ascents on joux plane:

2012:11,7 km@8,7%---35:17 (Nairo Quintana)
2006:11,7 km@8,7%---35:47---average speed 19.62 km/h(Carlos Sastre)
2005:
2000:11,7 km@8,7%---34:12---average speed 20.53 km/h(Virenque-Heras)
1997:11,7 km@8,7%---32;55 Pantani

shiit uk postal might kill this tour big time

extremely fast again at 7 w/kg for EBH at the beginning i guess just like on collet d'allevard,something like ten minutes.peloton exploding from the first two kilometers.
quintana proves his magnificent ability uphill and numbers,probably well above 6 w/kg for the whole climb.he really is the real deal.

in my opinion,froomy and wiggo were the only ones who could get faster than quintana and i mean way faster,they looked really good,like they could put at least a minute on everybody else
let's all remember that this is the dauphine,not le tour.there, some dozens of extra watts will come.the level seems as always,very high

kiry already showed his class on the epic finestre breakaway so no surprise here.
i'm surprised by the high level of weening.and i expected tejay to lose way more.great rides by the two of them anyway

 

[Swifty's Cakes]

Thanks. Nibali should have joined him.
But he doesn't have the form at all.

Nibali still had to go over the top when Cadel launched his second attack. It would have been a hell of a good descent to join him.

My view of today was that Sky went quite hard but by no means eyeballs out on the ascent and Cadel was pretty comfortable. Cadel then rode a very nice descent but Sky were cruising after his second attack and if the gap on GC had been small they would have riden much harder.
In summary I really wouldn't read much into today's stage about the relative form of Cadel and Brad, it seemed to me they both had something in hand.

 

[roundabout]

i already passed it here.




extremely fast again at 7 w/kg for EBH at the beginning i guess just like on collet d'allevard,something like ten minutes.peloton exploding from the first two kilometers.
quintana proves his magnificent ability uphill and numbers,probably well above 6 w/kg for the whole climb.he really is the real deal.

in my opinion,froomy and wiggo were the only ones who could get faster than quintana and i mean way faster,they looked really good,like they could put at least a minute on everybody else
let's all remember that this is the dauphine,not le tour.there, some dozens of extra watts will come.the level seems as always,very high

kiry already showed his class on the epic finestre breakaway so no surprise here.
i'm surprised by the high level of weening.and i expected tejay to lose way more.great rides by the two of them anyway

Thanks, didn't see your post the first time I looked.

 

[Mellow Velo]

Won't be surprised if evans gives it another dig tomorrow.

If he doesn't, I'm sure you will.

What are you on about?

He doesn't know, so I wouldn't worry.
(finger hovers over the ignore button)

 

[dlwssonic]

What are you on about?

I meant nibali should have been in that front group in the climb and so that he could attack on the descent.
but he does not have the form

 

[cineteq]

I meant nibali should have been in that front group in the climb and so that he could attack on the descent.
but he does not have the form

You don't have to explain yourself, most people understood what you meant. Those posters are just giving you a hard time

 

[profff]

nairo quintana one day will fight to win the tour.
i told you months ago, ryo has been repeating this concept for month.

i do not know if he will win the tour, he will be able to really compete in few years.