Doping In Athletics

[sniper]

Personally I doubt Seppelt has a political agenda.
It's not impossible that politics play some role in the background (e.g. in funding issues), but another (imo more plausible) possibility is that it has simply become very personal for Seppelt ever since the Stepanovs knocked on his door.
Bear in mind that he's received death threats for his investigations.
At some point it just gets personal.

 

[sniper]

It's not just Russian either.
...

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/25/british-olympic-champion-iaaf-alleged-doping-cover-up?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Thanks for the updates gooner.
This one in particular sounds promising.

 

[BullsFan22]

I'd like to see Seppelt 'investigate' the success of the British team at their home games in London 2012. He'll need whistleblowers for that though and they'll need to relocate to the United States. He'll also a need a coach/doctor that has had an address in the United States for at least five years or so.

 

[sniper]

I'd like to see Seppelt 'investigate' the success of the British team at their home games in London 2012.

The corruption he uncovers in his current investigations will sooner or later also relate back to London 2012. That is inevitable, I think.

 

[DirtyWorks]

The story has been updated.

http://www.sportschau.de/weitere/leichtathletik/leichtathletik-korruption-schutzgeld-russland-englische-version-100.html

We strongly believe that the only way to avoid a huge scandal concerning covering-up the numerous ADRV which also involved almost all responsible IAAF officers is continuing joint efforts to keep the situation "under the table" as it was happening all these years.

That's an email from an IAAF lawyer used to blackmail the Russians. Pay us or a scandal breaks out. Guess what happened?


Paging Seb Coe. Seb Coe please contact the Gendermarie.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I guess this story has been rumbling along in non-English media. Habib Cissé's arrest was apparently last month, but did not last.
http://www.lemonde.fr/athletisme/article/2016/10/18/dopage-et-corruption-dans-l-athletisme-premiere-incarceration-dans-l-enquete-en-france_5016060_1616661.html

So, you've got Lamine Diack, Diack's son taking money. Gabriel Dollé not sanctioning positives at one time and Habib Cisse not sanctioning positives at another time AND doing the talking to Russian Track and Field. Maybe I have that wrong.

Now it's easy to understand why Track and Field federations would test vigorously. Nobody dare test positive at an IAAF event. The bribe is too much!

 

[DirtyWorks]

I wasn't sure where to put this, so.... the latest Brits who don't dope are a short list from British Athletics, based entirely on Seppelt's latest story regarding claims of buried positives at the 2012 London Games.

Jessica Ennis
Greg Rutherford
Alistair Brownlee

SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST

Mo "answer the doorbell" Farah.

 

[sniper]

And remember the earlier Davies email to Papa strongly implicated the Lausanne Lab as part of the scam.
I'm at a loss (well not really) as to why Reedie isn't investigating and has not yet (at least provisionally) suspended that lab.

we have a plan B to do the tests in Lausanne instead (Gabriel [Dollé] confirmed this to me yesterday). http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/nick-davies-admits-accepting-payment-papa-diack-2013/

 

[Cake]

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we have a plan B to do the tests in Lausanne instead (Gabriel [Dollé] confirmed this to me yesterday). http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/nick-davies-admits-accepting-payment-papa-diack-2013/

Remarkable that when this leak was in the media a year ago, several on here spotted this quote straight away. Yet to my knowledge not a single journalist from a mainstream media organisation has dug further, preferring to keep the focus on the backhander / bribe element of the story.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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And remember the earlier Davies email to Papa strongly implicated the Lausanne Lab as part of the scam.
I'm at a loss (well not really) as to why Reedie isn't investigating and has not yet (at least provisionally) suspended that lab.

we have a plan B to do the tests in Lausanne instead (Gabriel [Dollé] confirmed this to me yesterday). http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/nick-davies-admits-accepting-payment-papa-diack-2013/

Well, we know Reedie was elected by the federations so another Armstrong scandal didn't happen. At the time, casual observers (me) had no idea what that meant. Now there is ample evidence he is burying every scandal.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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we have a plan B to do the tests in Lausanne instead (Gabriel [Dollé] confirmed this to me yesterday). http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/nick-davies-admits-accepting-payment-papa-diack-2013/

Remarkable that when this leak was in the media a year ago, several on here spotted this quote straight away. Yet to my knowledge not a single journalist from a mainstream media organisation has dug further, preferring to keep the focus on the backhander / bribe element of the story.

There is SO much untouched in the story.

IAAF fixing events.
Swiss lab burying positives.
Federations burying positives.

I am pretty sure the only reason the bribe is the only angle is because it is the only crime that law enforcement can pursue. In this sense, it's important to note the IOC works very hard to "keep sport free from politics." Which, conveniently, means fixing events is not a crime.

 

[BullsFan22]

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I wasn't sure where to put this, so.... the latest Brits who don't dope are a short list from British Athletics, based entirely on Seppelt's latest story regarding claims of buried positives at the 2012 London Games.

Jessica Ennis
Greg Rutherford
Alistair Brownlee

SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST

Mo "answer the doorbell" Farah.

Brownlee brothers were named in the FancyBears leak. I hope this starts the tying of loose ends and we can connect the dots.

We also know about the suspicious practices of Salazar and the Oregon group, plus Farah's ties to Jama Aden. Wasn't Ohurougu also in some trouble years ago regarding irregularities? Can someone confirm that.

If something happens out of these 'investigations' and some serious corruption in London is uncovered and the Brits get massively exposed, then Coe, Reedie, et al are in some serious trouble. That might be the last nail in the coffin of the IAAF, at least for this current member list.

 

[sniper]

Ohuruogu "was banned for a year for missing three out-of-competition drug tests; one in October 2005 and then a further two in June 2006"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Ohuruogu

But rest assured,
"Dates prove Christine Ohuruogu is no cheat"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/2325245/Dates-prove-Christine-Ohuruogu-is-no-cheat.html

 

[Zebadeedee]

One important aspect of the investigation in my view, would be to establish evidence that implicates Coe and his sidekick as a functioning part of the criminal conspiracy - more so given the remarks of Richard Pound in backing Coe to lead reform of the IAAF. Cosa Nostra, mafia groups generally, succeed as they have the occultic support and protection from high level political enablers. Similarly, Diack & Sons (Crookery) Ltd would not have been able to do as they did without a support system in place within the IAAF.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

And remember the earlier Davies email to Papa strongly implicated the Lausanne Lab as part of the scam.
I'm at a loss (well not really) as to why Reedie isn't investigating and has not yet (at least provisionally) suspended that lab.

we have a plan B to do the tests in Lausanne instead (Gabriel [Dollé] confirmed this to me yesterday). http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/nick-davies-admits-accepting-payment-papa-diack-2013/

Well, we know Reedie was elected by the federations so another Armstrong scandal didn't happen. At the time, casual observers (me) had no idea what that meant. Now there is ample evidence he is burying every scandal.

Rena ‏@ilswordfish 1 Std.Vor 1 Stunde

Sportschau.de claims Reedie (WADS) was involved in cover ups of Russian athletes. They have apparently documents as proof.

Let's hope the lid is properly pulled off this time.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

And remember the earlier Davies email to Papa strongly implicated the Lausanne Lab as part of the scam.
I'm at a loss (well not really) as to why Reedie isn't investigating and has not yet (at least provisionally) suspended that lab.

we have a plan B to do the tests in Lausanne instead (Gabriel [Dollé] confirmed this to me yesterday). http://www.sportsintegrityinitiative.com/nick-davies-admits-accepting-payment-papa-diack-2013/

Well, we know Reedie was elected by the federations so another Armstrong scandal didn't happen. At the time, casual observers (me) had no idea what that meant. Now there is ample evidence he is burying every scandal.

Rena ‏@ilswordfish 1 Std.Vor 1 Stunde

Sportschau.de claims Reedie (WADS) was involved in cover ups of Russian athletes. They have apparently documents as proof.

Let's hope the lid is properly pulled off this time.

I just checked and Reedie is Scottish, they can't be trusted, Brits still don't dope :lol:

Reedie was born in Stirling, in Scotland, in 1941. He was educated at High School of Stirling and the University of Glasgow. He gained his Master of Arts (MA) in 1962 and then studied for a Bachelor of Laws (LLB) degree in 1964, still at the University of Glasgow. In 2001 his life's achievements were recognised with a Doctorate from the University of Glasgow, and in 2005 Scotland's oldest university, the University of St Andrews.[2] made him a Doctor of Law (LLD).

 

[DirtyWorks]

Fancy Bear is BACK!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/25/fancy-bears-hack-again-with-attack-on-senior-anti-doping-officials

Sniper, this appears to be the proof Reedie is in on the "hide the doping" game.

 

[noddy69]

Watched the euro cross country champs and Turkey win medals with Kenyans who have no ties to Turkey only being paid to run. I give up , athletics is broken beyond repair.

 

[meat puppet]

Yeah, "Turkey" did really well! Continuing on the topic of despairing over the state of athletics....

Nike has launched a Big sub 2h marathon campaign. More to the point, Kipchoge, Tadese and Desisa are to break two hours next summer. They will miss the spring marathons to have a shot. By the looks of it the campaign does not even try to be IAAF legit (I know, quite a contradiction). Hence, a downhill course and springs in shoes are rumoured, for instance.

And surely no drugs will be involved!

Check this fluff piece for a start: http://www.runnersworld.com/marathon/nikes-audacious-plan-break-the-2-hour-marathon-barrier-in-2017

Overall, this trumpet touting might make some limited sporting sense if the current WR was well below 2:01. But alas it is far from that. So it is just a dirty ol marketing gimmick.

 

[noddy69]

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Yeah, "Turkey" did really well! Continuing on the topic of despairing over the state of athletics....

Nike has launched a Big sub 2h marathon campaign. More to the point, Kipchoge, Tadese and Desisa are to break two hours next summer. They will miss the spring marathons to have a shot. By the looks of it the campaign does not even try to be IAAF legit (I know, quite a contradiction). Hence, a downhill course and springs in shoes are rumoured, for instance.

And surely no drugs will be involved!

Check this fluff piece for a start: http://www.runnersworld.com/marathon/nikes-audacious-plan-break-the-2-hour-marathon-barrier-in-2017

Overall, this trumpet touting might make some limited sporting sense if the current WR was well below 2:01. But alas it is far from that. So it is just a dirty ol marketing gimmick.

Another Oregon project with no drugs but miraculous results, go Nike destroying sport and backing cheats all the way- Just do it .

 

[BullsFan22]

Re:

Yeah, "Turkey" did really well! Continuing on the topic of despairing over the state of athletics....

Nike has launched a Big sub 2h marathon campaign. More to the point, Kipchoge, Tadese and Desisa are to break two hours next summer. They will miss the spring marathons to have a shot. By the looks of it the campaign does not even try to be IAAF legit (I know, quite a contradiction). Hence, a downhill course and springs in shoes are rumoured, for instance.

And surely no drugs will be involved!

Check this fluff piece for a start: http://www.runnersworld.com/marathon/nikes-audacious-plan-break-the-2-hour-marathon-barrier-in-2017

Overall, this trumpet touting might make some limited sporting sense if the current WR was well below 2:01. But alas it is far from that. So it is just a dirty ol marketing gimmick.

Is it possible to sanction sponsors?

 

[Red Rick]

Is there any specific thread on long distance running or is that all in here?

 

[Robert5091]

https://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/iaaf-submits-guidelines-to-russian-athletics
IAAF submits guidelines to Russian Athletics Federation for applications to compete as neutral athletes in international competition in 2017 -
Russia remains suspended as a member of the IAAF until such time as it has complied with the verification criteria set by the IAAF Council in 2015 and no athlete may compete for Russia in the interim.

The IAAF has been forwarded about 200 names of Russian athletes by the McLaren investigation team and it will assess the evidence and intelligence from the McLaren report and elsewhere in respect of any athlete who applies for neutral athlete status under the guidelines.

(So they'll be known as "Neutrals"? ... )

 

[The Hitch]

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Is there any specific thread on long distance running or is that all in here?

In 2011 I made one on marathon titled "New Kenyan marathon domination" or some such

Here: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=15730&hilit=marathon+kenya

 

[Kokoso]

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Yeah, "Turkey" did really well!

If you take like this, there all USA athletes would "USA" athletes, the same goes for most of American athletes on both continents. Most of them are European