fantasy doping draft

[TheGreenMonkey]

Round 1
Pick 1: Libertine Seguros - Miguel Indurain ('95 Tour)
Pick 2: The Hitch - Lance Armstrong ('04 Tour)
Pick 3: The Sceptic - Jan Ullrich ('97 Tour)
Pick 4: The Green Monkey - Alberto Contador ('09 Tour)
Pick 5: zlev11 - Marco Pantani ('99 Giro)
Pick 6: burning - Bjarne Riis ('96 Tour)
Pick 7: Netserk - Ivan Basso ('06 Giro)
Pick 8: Zam Olyas - Gianni Bugno ('90 Giro)
Pick 9: Tonton - Evgeni Berzin ('94 Giro)
Pick 10: Ciranda - Roberto Heras ('04 Vuelta)

Round 2

Pick 11: Ciranda - Tyler Hamilton ('03 Tour)
Pick 12: Tonton - Chris Froome ('13 Tour)
Pick 13: Zam Olyas - Tony Rominger ('95 Giro)
Pick 14: Netserk - Piotr Ugrumov ('94 Tour)
Pick 15: burning - Richard Virenque ('97 Tour)
Pick 16: zlev11 - Floyd Landis ('06 Tour)
Pick 17: The Green Monkey - Alex Zülle ('95 Tour)
Pick 18: The Sceptic - Santi Pérez ('04 Vuelta)
Pick 19: The Hitch - Michael Rasmussen ('07 Tour)
Pick 20: Libertine Seguros - Laurent Jalabert ('95 Vuelta)

Round 3

Pick 21: Ciranda - Frank Vandenbroucke ('99 Vuelta)
Pick 22: Tonton - Alexander Vinokourov ('03 Tour)
Pick 23: Zam Olyas - Denis Menchov ('09 Giro)
Pick 24: Netserk -
Pick 25: burning -
Pick 26: zlev11 -
Pick 27: The Green Monkey -
Pick 28: The Sceptic -
Pick 29: The Hitch -
Pick 30: Libertine Seguros -

 

[Netserk]

My next pick is Tonkov, but it's difficult for me to pick a year. Even though he won in '96 he didn't seem as impressive as in '97, and then there's '98 where he wasn't far of Pantani. Ofc there's also the 50% rule to consider, but judged by the little info I have found of climbing times it doesn't seem like it affected him.

I will do my real post selection him in some time, but until then this is so burning know what he has to pick between.

I know another Giro winner has been hinted at, but I think Tonkov is going to fit better in on my team, not that I know who of them was best.

 

[ciranda]

Tonkov definitely better than any Giro winner not already picked. I wanted him for next round! The 1998 Giro is the best, he almost matched Pantani and won the stage to Alpe di Pampeago with the super hard final part.

I like the picture of the '95 Vuelta podium. Will someone pick him?

Yes, in a DS bonus round.

 

[Netserk]

Saiz for me in a DS round, but more important, I want Ferrari for the doctor round

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

I wanted Tonkov for my pick, I did not expect to get him though.

 

[May0maniac]

Good pick Netserk, Tonkov was one of the guys that I was thinking about, a great pick in the 3rd round! I'd also pick the 1998 version, he was a beast on Alpe di Pampeago and did something like 6.53 W/kg for 50 min on Montecampione when Pantani destroyed him.

 

[Tonton]

Re:

My next pick is Tonkov, but it's difficult for me to pick a year. Even though he won in '96 he didn't seem as impressive as in '97, and then there's '98 where he wasn't far of Pantani. Ofc there's also the 50% rule to consider, but judged by the little info I have found of climbing times it doesn't seem like it affected him.

I will do my real post selection him in some time, but until then this is so burning know what he has to pick between.

I know another Giro winner has been hinted at, but I think Tonkov is going to fit better in on my team, not that I know who of them was best.

Great pick. Also, Tonkov owns the super-mutant record on the Lagos de Cavadonga climb, 40" faster than Jaja/Zulle. Something like 480 watts.

 

[deValtos]

There's a certain italian cyclist who should've gone a long time ago that I think people have forgotten about.

Gratz to whoever picks him up !

 

[motty89]

There's a certain italian cyclist who should've gone a long time ago that I think people have forgotten about.

Gratz to whoever picks him up !

I have a feeling we're thinking of the same guy. Bit surprised netserk didn't go for him if he wants to cause some carnage in the mountains.

 

[Netserk]

If it's the dude from early in this time frame, he just simply doesn't have enough power. It's about winning, not some TV breaks.

 

[D-Queued]

Re: Re:

Really enjoying the draft and each 'Director's' reasoning behind their picks.
Would enjoy it after you're done if you put up a poll to see whose team is deemed the dopest.

I agree with your excellent idea.

And I agree with your opinion.

This is a truly enjoyable way to discuss doping.

You guys need to pick faster, though. There are still a bunch of riders that I am hoping to see make it on to someone's team.

Dave.

 

[Tonton]

Re: Re:

Really enjoying the draft and each 'Director's' reasoning behind their picks.
Would enjoy it after you're done if you put up a poll to see whose team is deemed the dopest.

I agree with your excellent idea.

And I agree with your opinion.

This is a truly enjoyable way to discuss doping.

You guys need to pick faster, though. There are still a bunch of riders that I am hoping to see make it on to someone's team.

Dave.

Muhahahahaaaaaaa Dave, Muhahahahaaaaaaa.

 

[the sceptic]

almost 24 hours since the last pick. come on people!

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

burning might be waiting for Netserk to post the full selection post that Netserk said he would do. Not sure whether we are waiting for Netserk or burning.

 

[Netserk]

Re:

My next pick is The Tsar Pavel Tonkov and I choose his '98 Giro form.

After having won the race in '96 and leading for most of it in '97 while winning three stages, he was the closest rival to Pantani in the 1998 Giro and while he was defeated, he delivered several very impressive performances. He won on Pampeago (only a few seconds slower than Pantani was next year while slaughtering everyone) and did his best to stick to Pantani on Montecampione, but lost nearly a minute, though still far ahead of the next riders. In the Vuelta the year before he won two mountain stages and sat the record on mythical Lagos de Covadonga before heading home to his newborn son. He is also an excellent TTer and should definitely be able to set a very hard pace on the penultimate climb of the day.

Round 1

Pick 1: Libertine Seguros - Miguel Indurain ('95 Tour)
Pick 2: The Hitch - Lance Armstrong ('04 Tour)
Pick 3: The Sceptic - Jan Ullrich ('97 Tour)
Pick 4: The Green Monkey - Alberto Contador ('09 Tour)
Pick 5: zlev11 - Marco Pantani ('99 Giro)
Pick 6: burning - Bjarne Riis ('96 Tour)
Pick 7: Netserk - Ivan Basso ('06 Giro)
Pick 8: Zam Olyas - Gianni Bugno ('90 Giro)
Pick 9: Tonton - Evgeni Berzin ('94 Giro)
Pick 10: Ciranda - Roberto Heras ('04 Vuelta)

Round 2

Pick 11: Ciranda - Tyler Hamilton ('03 Tour)
Pick 12: Tonton - Chris Froome ('13 Tour)
Pick 13: Zam Olyas - Tony Rominger ('95 Giro)
Pick 14: Netserk - Piotr Ugrumov ('94 Tour)
Pick 15: burning - Richard Virenque ('97 Tour)
Pick 16: zlev11 - Floyd Landis ('06 Tour)
Pick 17: The Green Monkey - Alex Zülle ('95 Tour)
Pick 18: The Sceptic - Santi Pérez ('04 Vuelta)
Pick 19: The Hitch - Michael Rasmussen ('07 Tour)
Pick 20: Libertine Seguros - Laurent Jalabert ('95 Vuelta)

Round 3

Pick 21: Ciranda - Frank Vandenbroucke ('99 Vuelta)
Pick 22: Tonton - Alexander Vinokourov ('03 Tour)
Pick 23: Zam Olyas - Denis Menchov ('09 Giro)
Pick 24: Netserk - Pavel Tonkov ('98 Giro)
Pick 25: burning -
Pick 26: zlev11 -
Pick 27: The Green Monkey -
Pick 28: The Sceptic -
Pick 29: The Hitch -
Pick 30: Libertine Seguros -

 

[burning]

Sorry for the delay, I was busy in last 2 days. I'm picking Gibo ('03 Giro) and will post detailed explanation of the pick whenever I got time to write .

 

[zlev11]

I select "The Cobra" Riccardo Ricco, 2008 Tour de France

His two incredible stage wins at the 2008 Tour de France will always be remembered, if only because he later tested positive for CERA and had his entire team thrown out of the race. From his incredible uphill sprint at Super Besse to his insane motorbike attack on the Col d'Aspin that made everyone else look like they were nailed to the ground, he was so obviously doped to the gills that riders were actually contesting 2nd place on stages where he was already clear for the stage win (Efimkin on stage 9 oddly attacked before the finish to pick up a measly 13 seconds, which was weird at the time, but now he's listed as the official stage winner). A completely fearless climber, he will hunt for stage wins early in the race if there happens to be a short and steep climb that suits him and then support Pantani in the mountains by attacking from far out to take the pressure off of the rest of the team and who knows, maybe just win the race himself.

Round 1

Pick 1: Libertine Seguros - Miguel Indurain ('95 Tour)
Pick 2: The Hitch - Lance Armstrong ('04 Tour)
Pick 3: The Sceptic - Jan Ullrich ('97 Tour)
Pick 4: The Green Monkey - Alberto Contador ('09 Tour)
Pick 5: zlev11 - Marco Pantani ('99 Giro)
Pick 6: burning - Bjarne Riis ('96 Tour)
Pick 7: Netserk - Ivan Basso ('06 Giro)
Pick 8: Zam Olyas - Gianni Bugno ('90 Giro)
Pick 9: Tonton - Evgeni Berzin ('94 Giro)
Pick 10: Ciranda - Roberto Heras ('04 Vuelta)

Round 2

Pick 11: Ciranda - Tyler Hamilton ('03 Tour)
Pick 12: Tonton - Chris Froome ('13 Tour)
Pick 13: Zam Olyas - Tony Rominger ('95 Giro)
Pick 14: Netserk - Piotr Ugrumov ('94 Tour)
Pick 15: burning - Richard Virenque ('97 Tour)
Pick 16: zlev11 - Floyd Landis ('06 Tour)
Pick 17: The Green Monkey - Alex Zülle ('95 Tour)
Pick 18: The Sceptic - Santi Pérez ('04 Vuelta)
Pick 19: The Hitch - Michael Rasmussen ('07 Tour)
Pick 20: Libertine Seguros - Laurent Jalabert ('95 Vuelta)

Round 3

Pick 21: Ciranda - Frank Vandenbroucke ('99 Vuelta)
Pick 22: Tonton - Alexander Vinokourov ('03 Tour)
Pick 23: Zam Olyas - Denis Menchov ('09 Giro)
Pick 24: Netserk - Pavel Tonkov ('98 Giro)
Pick 25: burning - Gilberto Simoni ('03 Giro)
Pick 26: zlev11 - Riccardo Ricco ('08 Tour)
Pick 27: The Green Monkey -
Pick 28: The Sceptic -
Pick 29: The Hitch -
Pick 30: Libertine Seguros -

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I was wondering how early Riccò would go. Widely regarded as the cleanest Tour of the era we're looking at, due mainly to AFLD actually caring about catching dopers, but Riccardo just stood out like a sore thumb with his fearless CERA-fuelled antics. His motorbike-blast past de la Fuente and Arroyo on the Col d'Aspin is hilarious to this day.

 

[Netserk]

I really miss Saunier Duval

 

[observer]

that Ricco stage is one of my favourites of all time.

 

[observer]

zlev's team is looking like a crowd favourite at the moment.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

I will try and get my pick up in about 10-12 hours. Need to do some thinking.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

With my pick I am going to select the winner of the 1997 and 1999 Giro, Ivan Gotti.

I have no idea which year Gotti was stronger, or even if I am making a good selection at all, but I will go with 1997 when he beat Tonkov by not much but was a long way ahead of anyone else (although that might only be because the competition was weak, it does not look like a strong top 10).

Round 1

Pick 1: Libertine Seguros - Miguel Indurain ('95 Tour)
Pick 2: The Hitch - Lance Armstrong ('04 Tour)
Pick 3: The Sceptic - Jan Ullrich ('97 Tour)
Pick 4: The Green Monkey - Alberto Contador ('09 Tour)
Pick 5: zlev11 - Marco Pantani ('99 Giro)
Pick 6: burning - Bjarne Riis ('96 Tour)
Pick 7: Netserk - Ivan Basso ('06 Giro)
Pick 8: Zam Olyas - Gianni Bugno ('90 Giro)
Pick 9: Tonton - Evgeni Berzin ('94 Giro)
Pick 10: Ciranda - Roberto Heras ('04 Vuelta)

Round 2

Pick 11: Ciranda - Tyler Hamilton ('03 Tour)
Pick 12: Tonton - Chris Froome ('13 Tour)
Pick 13: Zam Olyas - Tony Rominger ('95 Giro)
Pick 14: Netserk - Piotr Ugrumov ('94 Tour)
Pick 15: burning - Richard Virenque ('97 Tour)
Pick 16: zlev11 - Floyd Landis ('06 Tour)
Pick 17: The Green Monkey - Alex Zülle ('95 Tour)
Pick 18: The Sceptic - Santi Pérez ('04 Vuelta)
Pick 19: The Hitch - Michael Rasmussen ('07 Tour)
Pick 20: Libertine Seguros - Laurent Jalabert ('95 Vuelta)

Round 3

Pick 21: Ciranda - Frank Vandenbroucke ('99 Vuelta)
Pick 22: Tonton - Alexander Vinokourov ('03 Tour)
Pick 23: Zam Olyas - Denis Menchov ('09 Giro)
Pick 24: Netserk - Pavel Tonkov ('98 Giro)
Pick 25: burning - Gilberto Simoni ('03 Giro)
Pick 26: zlev11 - Riccardo Ricco ('08 Tour)
Pick 27: The Green Monkey - Ivan Gotti ('97 Giro)
Pick 28: The Sceptic -
Pick 29: The Hitch -
Pick 30: Libertine Seguros -

 

[Libertine Seguros]

1997 is the Gotti to have. Saint-Panthaléon for the win.

 

[TheGreenMonkey]

Re:

1997 is the Gotti to have. Saint-Panthaléon for the win.

I have to thank Eshnar whose Giro write up distracted me from making my pick for pushing me in the right direction.