Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Catwhoorg]

Lance wasn't even the most tested American cyclist named Armstrong...


Froome I am wlilling to bet is the most tested Dawg with a Britsih license.

 

[blackcat]

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Obviously the most important part is "Excellent team-mates." AKA No shittin' in the campah. AKA LRP.

Remember when Alberto had LRP as his "team-mate?" Made all the difference in the world. Why do you think Teeeeeeeeeejay stole LRP away from Da Dawg?

well the jokes on LRP then. LRP thinks he is going to BMC to be leader in July. Imagine Dave Towle announcing "LLLLRRRRPPPPP BBBBBBMMMMMMCCCCC" at a post tour crit in Boxmeer.

jokes gonna be a rude awakening for LRP when he works for TJ at BMC.

Got an initial acronym Och got a spot for you

 

[blackcat]

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Lance wasn't even the most tested American cyclist named Armstrong...


Froome I am wlilling to bet is the most tested Dawg with a Britsih license.

Vandenbroecke's dog?

 

[chuckmicD]

VDB's dawg. Forgot about him.

 

[The Hitch]

Good to see that froome is clean. Always does bad at this the most doped gt(according to walsh). Coincidence? I think not.

 

[bigcog]

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Good to see that froome is clean. Always does bad at this the most doped gt(according to walsh). Coincidence? I think not.

Glad to see you're seeing sense

 

[pastronef]

so why letting Roche and Nieve gain time on the clean Froome? Sky forgot the keep them with Froome?
by this reasoning they will look doped

 

[wendybnt]

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Good to see that froome is clean. Always does bad at this the most doped gt(according to walsh). Coincidence? I think not.

Another top 5 placing for him, which is the norm for him in the Vuelta maybe? Same experience for him as for Contador in this years TdF perhaps? Two wins in 2-3 months is asking too much, maybe?

Beyond needing the drugs to stand any chance of getting into the top 5 (or maybe more) I doubt there is anything more going on,

 

[Brullnux]

Well then...

 

[wendybnt]

so why letting Roche and Nieve gain time on the clean Froome? Sky forgot the keep them with Froome?
by this reasoning they will look doped

Caught a bit of today's stage and it looked as if Froome was riding for Roche

 

[bigcog]

so why letting Roche and Nieve gain time on the clean Froome? Sky forgot the keep them with Froome?
by this reasoning they will look doped

Caught a bit of today's stage and it looked as if Froome was riding for Roche

Are you sure ? Suppose he could have been if he thought he wasn't up to it.

 

[42x16ss]

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So Froome is lying when says he doesn't know his vo2max because it was never tested.

Froome did a pulmonary function test in Monaco with Dr Stephan Bermon (Vino's former doctor).

Brailsford would obviously know this too, so he is lying when he says Froome was never tested.

Not sure how thorough the PF test would be compared with a VO2max - I googled it and it can range from something as basic as a 6 minute walk (must be dead easy to get a prescription then)! If its for an Asthma assessment I don't know if they would blast as hard as for a VO2max? I think PFT is a pretty broad range of tests.

A professional athlete, i guess, would want the full PFT and a sports doctor would give the full PFT.

But obfuscate away.....apu.

Not at all - just asking / querying what the PFT might include. Its called discussion and debate, you should try it instead of just throwing long words in from the sidelines in an attempt to shut things down...

Strange, a Pulmonary Function Test is typically a diagnostic tool for lung disease or very chronic asthma - to the point where it's completely debilitating, not what an athlete would be able to perform with.

Measurements are:

Spirometry
Lung Volume
Maximum Respiratory Pressure
Oxygen Desaturation
Diffusing Capacity
Arterial Blood Gases

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_function_testing

It seems some research I was doing contradicted my statement earlier. If you have asthma you need a Pulmonary Function Test every year to ride on a WT or PC team:

http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/CleanSport/16/76/80/ProgrammeofobligatoryMM2013ROADE_English.pdf

2. Biannual examination

2.1 Any cyclist who joins a team for the first time and those riders referred to in article 2.16.035 shall be obliged to undergo the biannual examination.

This examination must be conducted in the month preceding the first competition in which the cyclist participates for the team.

Subsequently, this examination shall be carried out every two years, regardless of the team to which the cyclist belongs at that time.

2.2 The biannual examination shall include the following examinations:

A cardiological examination, including an echo-doppler and a stress-electrocardiogram. These exams must be done alternately (one year echo-doppler, one year stress-electrocardiogram);

 For the riders who suffer from asthma, an annual pulmonary function testing will have to be done ;

 A visual acuity test ;

The annual biological examinations underlined on point 3.1 (examination from December 1st to January 31st).

 

[SeriousSam]

Both are excellently placed, therefore, heading into the mountains, but are aware that if they reach the second rest day next Tuesday without having gained an advantage on the time trial experts like Dumoulin and Froome

And there I was thinking that with Kimmage having already pointed out Froome's widely different results in ITTs in 2013 compared to 2015 and Froome's answer that he just didn't train on his TT bike this year because there's no point, it wouldn't be just a given that he is a specialist who will put minutes into the other GC riders.

But no. If he time trials like Martin again because the occasion required it, it will be because Froomey has always been a TT specialist hasn't he.

 

[pastronef]

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Both are excellently placed, therefore, heading into the mountains, but are aware that if they reach the second rest day next Tuesday without having gained an advantage on the time trial experts like Dumoulin and Froome

And there I was thinking that with Kimmage having already pointed out Froome's widely different results in ITTs in 2013 compared to 2015 and Froome's answer that he just didn't train on his TT bike this year because there's no point, it wouldn't be just a given that he is a specialist who will put minutes into the other GC riders.

But no. If he time trials like Martin again because the occasion required it, it will be because Froomey has always been a TT specialist hasn't he.

he resumed his TT sessions between the Tour and the Vuelta

https://www.twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/632216617129218052

 

[Dear Wiggo]

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Both are excellently placed, therefore, heading into the mountains, but are aware that if they reach the second rest day next Tuesday without having gained an advantage on the time trial experts like Dumoulin and Froome

And there I was thinking that with Kimmage having already pointed out Froome's widely different results in ITTs in 2013 compared to 2015 and Froome's answer that he just didn't train on his TT bike this year because there's no point, it wouldn't be just a given that he is a specialist who will put minutes into the other GC riders.

But no. If he time trials like Martin again because the occasion required it, it will be because Froomey has always been a TT specialist hasn't he.

he resumed his TT sessions between the Tour and the Vuelta

https://www.twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/632216617129218052

Ah see I was thinking you'd do a GT and win it, then basically recover for 6 weeks before doing another one with the intent of winning it.

Makes complete sense that you'd be improve your TT function between the two through overtraining and subsequent supercompensation.

Clean.

It's not like Chris raced before the Tour or anything.

 

[42x16ss]

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Both are excellently placed, therefore, heading into the mountains, but are aware that if they reach the second rest day next Tuesday without having gained an advantage on the time trial experts like Dumoulin and Froome

And there I was thinking that with Kimmage having already pointed out Froome's widely different results in ITTs in 2013 compared to 2015 and Froome's answer that he just didn't train on his TT bike this year because there's no point, it wouldn't be just a given that he is a specialist who will put minutes into the other GC riders.

But no. If he time trials like Martin again because the occasion required it, it will be because Froomey has always been a TT specialist hasn't he.

he resumed his TT sessions between the Tour and the Vuelta

https://www.twitter.com/chrisfroome/status/632216617129218052

Ah see I was thinking you'd do a GT and win it, then basically recover for 6 weeks before doing another one with the intent of winning it.

Makes complete sense that you'd be improve your TT function between the two through overtraining and subsequent supercompensation.

Clean.

It's not like Chris raced before the Tour or anything.

Froome wouldn't have been hammering himself doing huge ITT sessions, just getting out on the TT bike more. Even in the early 90's you couldn't smash yourself in between consecutive GT's unless your first name was Miguel and your last name was Indurain.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I was trusting the words in the tweet.

Tough TT training session today. Tim Kerrison cracking the whip!

 

[42x16ss]

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I was trusting the words in the tweet.

Tough TT training session today. Tim Kerrison cracking the whip!

Ok, maybe he is preparing to go full ret@rd....

 

[gmedina]

long yo-yo for froome getting drop in andorra early, or something went wrong with the program during the rest day?

 

[Texeng]

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long yo-yo for froome getting drop in andorra early, or something went wrong with the program during the rest day?

He crashed earlier and that may be the cause or something else entirely

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Bad reaction to the restday bloodbag?

 

[Texeng]

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Bad reaction to the restday bloodbag?

Hate to ruin a good clinic conspiracy but according to Cycling News Live updates the only visible blood is the stuff coming through his jersey

17:21:33 CEST
Froome is fighting on behind but seems to have injured his left shoulder. There are signs of blood coming through his jersey.

 

[samerics]

Welcome to the clinic. Froome has a bad day, it's a dodgy blood bag, Froome does well, he's juiced to the gills. Or maybe Froome is struggling because, one, he's had a crash, and two, he's already done a big Tour that he peaked in form for. But do carry on.....

 

[naviman]

Welcome to the clinic. Froome has a bad day, it's a dodgy blood bag, Froome does well, he's juiced to the gills. Or maybe Froome is struggling because, one, he's had a crash, and two, he's already done a big Tour that he peaked in form for. But do carry on.....

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

I'm pretty sure it was a dodgy rest day blood bag. He crashed deliberately so that it wouldn't look suspicious.