Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 Route: Speculation, Rumours and Announcements

[ashhutch1997]

It still hard to understand why they do the sequence of climbs they to on the Champoluc stage. Instead of doing Tzecore - Saint Panthaleon - Joux, it would be much better to change to Saint Panthaleon first and then add Arlaz before Zuccore and Joux.

It would have meant two ramps of 6-7 kms and 8,5-9 % before the last part of Joux. And no flat section between the last three climbs.

I'm pretty that chain has been used in Valle d'Aosta?

 

[Mayomaniac]

I'm pretty that chain has been used in Valle d'Aosta?

Yes, in the last edition.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, in the last edition.

Wow, marvelous

 

[ashhutch1997]

'Flat sterrato'

Have you, you know, actually watched Strade Bianche before? Because then you would know that the final three sectors are a) anything but flat and b) have proven themselves to be really selective.

They aren't using La Tolfe though, which has seen many race winning moves in Strade. This is what makes this route frustrating, a few small changes here and there would make solid route.

 

[CyclistAbi]

So will Rogla attack on Mortirolo. We'll see.

 

[OlavEH]

I'm pretty that chain has been used in Valle d'Aosta?

Yes, in the last edition.

And that makes much more sense than the sequence being used in the Giro this year. That includes that extra loop and climb to Antagnod. That is just as useless as the Motte climb to Bormio. That Antagnod loop would have made more sense if Joux had a 9-10 % average gradient, not now.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Wow, marvelous

Yeah, the Giro della Valle d'Aosta often has mountain stages that put most GTs to shame.
This stage was one day earlier:

Or that 2021 stage with an absurdly steep climb:

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yeah, the Giro della Valle d'Aosta often has mountain stages that put most GTs to shame.
This stage was one day earlier:

Or that 2021 stage with an absurdly steep climb:

Good stages. However I don't like how short they are. It is a shame we don't have 220 km mountain stages again.

 

[OlavEH]

Or that 2021 stage with an absurdly steep climb:

Where exactly is this climb?

 

[OlavEH]

Good stages. However I don't like how short they are. It is a shame we don't have 220 km mountain stages again.

Is this mostly from a U23 race? And that is why they are relatively short.

 

[ashhutch1997]

Is this mostly from a U23 race? And that is why they are relatively short.

These days you'd think the Giro stages for this year are for an U23 race

 

[Netserk]

There you have it:

GC Gee-ro, THE HYPE IS REAL!!!

 

[pastronef]

as usual I'll have an idea (no I won't) of the Giro stages the day before they are raced. I looked at the stage profiles, I have no idea if that's good or bad. I need a fuga bidone O'Connor's style with, say, Poole/DelToro/a Jayco in it

 

[Libertine Seguros]

More of Valle d'Aosta showing how it's done:

And a personal favourite from back in 2011:

 

[Mayomaniac]

Good stages. However I don't like how short they are. It is a shame we don't have 220 km mountain stages again.

They were for an u23 stage race with pretty much nothing but mountain stages, so there is a reason why they were so short.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Where exactly is this climb?

It's a smaller paralell road for the first 2/3s of Pila les Fleurs from the eastern side.

the start of it on Google maps

 

[Mayomaniac]

IMO the main problem are the 2 big turds on the weekend before the final rest day.
The Grappa stage needs hard side of the climb (Bocca di Forca ftw!) and less flat/the side of the final climb that they used in 2017.
With the Gorizia/Novi Gorica stage you could actually do something nice, like what the did in the Tour of Slovenia a few years ago:

Stage 16 could actually work out well because stage 17 is so lame that people won't be scared to attack on the harder penultimate climb.

Stage 19 could indeed have a much better sequence of climbs before the final one, but with Champoluc paying for a stage finish the day before the Finestre stage it's not like we could expect a ton of action anyway... Now of course something like a Pila MTF or even Alpe di Mera once again would work much better 1 day before Finestre.

The first half of the race isn't bad, the 2nd TT could be around 10-15km longer. Maybe another uphill finish, but Matera will be an uphill sprint, the sterrato stage is closer to the 2021 one than what we got last time + the uphill finish in Siena. The hilly stage 1 day earlier is also not bad, you'll never see crazy long range attacks one day before the Strade Bianche stage. The San Pellegrino in Alpe stage as a potential ambush stage if someone has a bad day right after the ITT also works well.

It's really stage 14 and 15 that shat the bed, you can work with the rest.

 

[OlavEH]

The Grappa stage needs hard side of the climb (Bocca di Forca ftw!) and less flat/the side of the final climb that they used in 2017

I was wondering about Grappa. Is there a road where it is possible to descend towards east? To Cismon del Grappa. It looks that way on some map engines like the one they use on Cyclingcols.com. But I cant find a paved road on Google maps.

 

[Potomac]

I love all the stages in one graphic:

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I was wondering about Grappa. Is there a road where it is possible to descend towards east? To Cismon del Grappa. It looks that way on some map engines like the one they use on Cyclingcols.com. But I cant find a paved road on Google maps.

You mean west, I guess? To the best of my knowledge none of those roads are fully paved, and the Cismon side isn't doable even as a climb.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I was wondering about Grappa. Is there a road where it is possible to descend towards east? To Cismon del Grappa. It looks that way on some map engines like the one they use on Cyclingcols.com. But I cant find a paved road on Google maps.

It's probably just an unpaved road used for logging and similar stuff.

 

[Coffeeplanter]

So will Rogla attack

No.

 

[houtdffan]

biggest issue again is the lack of TT km

they got it right last year, only to screw things up again

 

[E_F_]

The Nova Gorica stage is a hate crime on the Slovenian people.

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah, the Giro della Valle d'Aosta often has mountain stages that put most GTs to shame.
This stage was one day earlier:

Or that 2021 stage with an absurdly steep climb:

That's how you do minimalist stage design.