A lot of the hype train bears an unmistakable resemblance to Pegasus - but also to Sky, who have integrated into the péloton well, after a few early hiccups at least - and a couple of months where this site turned into a Team Sky fansite, publishing reports on nearly every rider, and press releases dressed up as news items like "Team Sky perfect sprint train at sprint training" and "Team Sky practice TTs using TT bikes". Team Sky's hype approach turned many off them, but since they've stopped shoving "science" and "marginal gains" down our throats and started behaving as a cycling team, they've done well.auscyclefan94 said:They have 60-70% of their riders and I don't think it is fair that GreenEdge are getting stuck with the reputation that Pegasus has because of their failures. Completely different, better and more reliable organisation. I have no doubt in my mind they will get the job done.
I agree - there is less hype and bull**** in comparison to Sky and they seemed to have some very well grounded people.Tuarts said:I find this hype amusing, outside of cycling media, few have a ****ing clue what' going on. It's all insular hype from a small section of the media, reverberating across the community like ripples in a small pond. Its only getting reported on constantly here because people are interested in its development.
Don't agree you can compare the two, anyone who does is misinformed because as you said in the 2nd paragraph, they had a hand in the Pegasus demise (how big a hand is another question) and are two different entities.
Their poachings or signings of rider leaves a little to be desired but then considering they have nothing I guess they have to start quick and exploit as many tricks in the books as possible. There's been no WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE TOUR!!!111 hype from any media statements let out in the press, even one of the latest articles said, they're looking for GC contenders that will develop for 2-3 years. The team has the appearance of being very grounded even if we don't exactly know what is happening behind the scenes.
but that does have to do with where cycling sits in Oz - apart from the TDU, the Tour de France and when the olympics/com games are on you dont hear a peep about it, nothing about the Giro or the Classics...nadda. Im not sure what its like in England but I would imagine there is more Cycling in media in general compared to Oz.auscyclefan94 said:I agree - there is less hype and bull**** in comparison to Sky and they seemed to have some very well grounded people.
Not really. Apart from the TdF most British people don't have a clue about road racing. Forget the Giro, Vuelta, Classics..... There's more coverage of track because I think they can understand the Olympics.sportzchick said:but that does have to do with where cycling sits in Oz - apart from the TDU, the Tour de France and when the olympics/com games are on you dont hear a peep about it, nothing about the Giro or the Classics...nadda. Im not sure what its like in England but I would imagine there is more Cycling in media in general compared to Oz.
Lol, no. There's no sponsorship revealed yet but apparently the jersey design wont change, they'll just splash it with sponsors when it all gets confirmed.auscyclefan94 said:Are you involved with GreenEdge and do you know which company is sponsoring the team?
Yep. |Hate to say it, but; here we go again.auscyclefan94 said:Something does not seem right with mckay leaving effectively immediately.
My Guess mostly white with flecks of green on the shoulders.Tuarts said:They should get Cadel on the payroll anyway, he's done more for the team then anyone else would have. Perfect timing.
Oh, I've seen the jersey for next year. Not going to describe it because I'm not sure if I'm allowed to but my opinion on it is that if you could think of the blandest, boring-est jersey design you could think of, this would beat it.
PS Mckay and Big Gerry did not see eye to eye so 1 had to leave -Andy99 said:Yep. |Hate to say it, but; here we go again.
What are you basing it on ?auscyclefan94 said:I could be way off the mark but something just does not seem right and it seems to be a lot deeper problem than what some on other cycling sites think.
I could be completely wrong...
It's going to be a crazy few months with everyone having Pegasus fresh in their memory...that's for sure.auscyclefan94 said:I could be way off the mark but something just does not seem right and it seems to be a lot deeper problem than what some on other cycling sites think.
I could be completely wrong...
You're probably right but it just seems odd that he's left simply due to a disagreement with Ryan.Sasquatch said:It's going to be a crazy few months with everyone having Pegasus fresh in their memory...that's for sure.
I think every little thing people may start to get worried. We'll see what happens.![]()
Would have to be some pretty large disagreement...auscyclefan94 said:You're probably right but it just seems odd that he's left simply due to a disagreement with Ryan.
Not really. The disagreement seems to be how they are wanting to run the team and they are on completely different pages. In that case one person has to leave or it really won't work.auscyclefan94 said:You're probably right but it just seems odd that he's left simply due to a disagreement with Ryan.
Which team will be dropped for GreenEdge to get one?Ferminal said:Well it would be a costly **** up if they didn't get a WT license. They are hardly names associated with administrative failure (as that is the only thing which will stop the team).
I don't know. Setting up a brand new Pro Tour team is not easy, especially if you don't have experience as a manager on PT level. It would not be bad if they got a PCT license the first year and move up 1 level the next year. They probably would still be able to participate in the Tour Down Under. And yes, their ego would get a serious blow.Ferminal said:Well it would be a costly **** up if they didn't get a WT license. They are hardly names associated with administrative failure (as that is the only thing which will stop the team).