"I hope somebody breaks a baseball bat over your head"

[kielbasa]

wonder who the driver is

No train driver, just a bunch of cyclists on a train who think they can drive it.

 

[Guttercat]

wonder who the driver is

I think like any thread in any doping forum, it's a group effort! Yay team!

 

[Bike Opera]

Seems as though Lance or other stakeholders have more on Stehanie than just her job on the line. She's now happily married within the company? Even worse if someone has some intel on you. She may be more torn than we can imagine...

According to the article below, Lance was Stephanie McIlvain's assistant at Oakley in 1996 and together were one happy family with shared values...

http://www.2020mag.com/Default.aspx?tabid=132&content_id=13050&category_id=16

After he was diagnosed with cancer in October of 1996, Lance lost a lot of his lucrative sponsorships and, as a result, his health insurance. He needed help… and Oakley was there for him. “We added him to our payroll as my assistant,” says McIlvain. “He was paid as an employee, and he also got our health insurance benefits.” After an aggressive and successful fight, he was declared cancer-free in February 1997. When he announced his return to the cycling circuit, many of his previous sponsors tried to sign him, but Lance wanted new alliances.

“He lines himself up with people who have similar values as him,” says Blick. “Similar values” in this case meant companies who wouldn’t leave an athlete during a time of need. Oakley, of course, had earned Lance’s loyalty for a long time. But it’s always been a two-way street. “We’re there for him and he’s there for us,” says Blick. “And it comes back tenfold on each side. We’re like family.”

 

[Dr. Maserati]

According to the article below, Lance was Stephanie McIlvain's assistant at Oakley in 1996 and together were one happy family with shared values...

http://www.2020mag.com/Default.aspx?tabid=132&content_id=13050&category_id=16

After he was diagnosed with cancer in October of 1996, Lance lost a lot of his lucrative sponsorships and, as a result, his health insurance. He needed help… and Oakley was there for him. “We added him to our payroll as my assistant,” says McIlvain. “He was paid as an employee, and he also got our health insurance benefits.” After an aggressive and successful fight, he was declared cancer-free in February 1997. When he announced his return to the cycling circuit, many of his previous sponsors tried to sign him, but Lance wanted new alliances.

“He lines himself up with people who have similar values as him,” says Blick. “Similar values” in this case meant companies who wouldn’t leave an athlete during a time of need. Oakley, of course, had earned Lance’s loyalty for a long time. But it’s always been a two-way street. “We’re there for him and he’s there for us,” says Blick. “And it comes back tenfold on each side. We’re like family.”

The Oakley Family.

 

[Race Radio]

Never heard about that.

Not a surprise. Judging by your posts your knowledge of the sport is limited.

 

[Kennf1]

The Oakley Family.

Wow, Jim Jannard has changed.

 

[redtreviso]

According to the article below, Lance was Stephanie McIlvain's assistant at Oakley in 1996 and together were one happy family with shared values...

http://www.2020mag.com/Default.aspx?tabid=132&content_id=13050&category_id=16

After he was diagnosed with cancer in October of 1996, Lance lost a lot of his lucrative sponsorships and, as a result, his health insurance. He needed help… and Oakley was there for him. “We added him to our payroll as my assistant,” says McIlvain. “He was paid as an employee, and he also got our health insurance benefits.” After an aggressive and successful fight, he was declared cancer-free in February 1997. When he announced his return to the cycling circuit, many of his previous sponsors tried to sign him, but Lance wanted new alliances.

“He lines himself up with people who have similar values as him,” says Blick. “Similar values” in this case meant companies who wouldn’t leave an athlete during a time of need. Oakley, of course, had earned Lance’s loyalty for a long time. But it’s always been a two-way street. “We’re there for him and he’s there for us,” says Blick. “And it comes back tenfold on each side. We’re like family.”

I heard it was former lance employer Subaru Montgomery who put Lance onto their health insurance.

 

[theswordsman]

wonder who the driver is

I call shotgun!

 

[SpartacusRox]

It's great to see the rotten core exposed. Lance and his little minions have thrived under the cover of mendacity for too long.

Ha ha another Moose classic. So if someone that you know abuses someone else, then it's a direct reflection on you personally?

You should get a spot on Boston Legal

 

[buckwheat]

She doesn't quite fit his profile, but she might have been part of his pre-oedipal phase. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Funny stuff. I didn't know that the dynamic was to grow into the oedipal phase. Thanks for enlightening me.

 

[SpartacusRox]

Actually Moose I did you a disservice. Reading the posts above you are not alone, I see the same old drivel, sniping and Lance bashing from all the usual hyenas.

 

[buckwheat]

Actually Moose I did you a disservice. Reading the posts above you are not alone, I see the same old drivel, sniping and Lance bashing from all the usual hyenas.

Damn you're really going down with the ship.

This $hit isn't going to be like the Alamo, you know, people remembering your bravery as the fort is overrun.

You don't actually tell your cycling friends in real life that you believe in the myth?

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

This thread is like watching one of those video montages of a whole bunch of bad bike crashes.

Does anyone know what's going on with Stephanie today? Sounds like she needed some serious help...

 

[ruamruam]

Amazes me how Americans are willing to pour out their broken hearts on someones phone machine! Like OMG its so totally crazy right now! I'm turning off Jersey Shore to listen to these tapes again!

Not cycling related but it is hard to beat this phone message from talentless Irish 'celebrity' to her ex husband whose new partner has just had a baby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DINu35v3eMU

 

[Benotti69]

I heard it was former lance employer Subaru Montgomery who put Lance onto their health insurance.

maybe he milked them all

 

[Benotti69]

I call shotgun!

methinks a shotgun ain't gonna save this one

 

[Cloxxki]

According to the article below, Lance was Stephanie McIlvain's assistant at Oakley in 1996 and together were one happy family with shared values...

http://www.2020mag.com/Default.aspx?tabid=132&content_id=13050&category_id=16

After he was diagnosed with cancer in October of 1996, Lance lost a lot of his lucrative sponsorships and, as a result, his health insurance. He needed help… and Oakley was there for him. “We added him to our payroll as my assistant,” says McIlvain. “He was paid as an employee, and he also got our health insurance benefits.” After an aggressive and successful fight, he was declared cancer-free in February 1997. When he announced his return to the cycling circuit, many of his previous sponsors tried to sign him, but Lance wanted new alliances.

“He lines himself up with people who have similar values as him,” says Blick. “Similar values” in this case meant companies who wouldn’t leave an athlete during a time of need. Oakley, of course, had earned Lance’s loyalty for a long time. But it’s always been a two-way street. “We’re there for him and he’s there for us,” says Blick. “And it comes back tenfold on each side. We’re like family.”

Amazing info, thanks...
Lance may have something on all of Oakley then. Something big.
Or their may be more instances of Oakley knowingly supporting dopes, or keeping them out of legal trouble.

I wonder. If I get cancer and lose my job and insurance, I bet it will be pretty hard to convince a new insurer to cover my med expenses. And I live in Med Insurance Heaven, Netherlands.
Is that cool in the US? Even with a phoney job?

 

[theswordsman]

methinks a shotgun ain't gonna save this one

Nice. I was going to explain the expression for some of the international members, but it felt cumbersome. I'm definitely not the driver, but I want a front row seat.

 

[Benotti69]

Nice. I was going to explain the expression for some of the international members, but it felt cumbersome. I'm definitely not the driver, but I want a front row seat.

i hope the airbag works

i think the clinic is the second row seats on this one

 

[THISISIT]

We added him to our payroll as my assistant,” says McIlvain. “He was paid as an employee, and he also got our health insurance benefits.” After an aggressive and successful fight, he was declared cancer-free in February 1997. When he announced his return to the cycling circuit, many of his previous sponsors tried to sign him, but Lance wanted new alliances.

Isn't that called insurance fraud?

 

[Berzin]

Isn't that called insurance fraud?

Yes, especially since pre-existing conditions weren't (and probably still aren't) covered by health insurance companies.

I'm not sure how anyone could have finagled this, because insurance companies would have ruled him ineligible for coverage for his cancer treatments if he received said coverage after his initial diagnosis.

 

[Benotti69]

Yes, especially since pre-existing conditions weren't (and probably still aren't) covered by health insurance companies.

I'm not sure how anyone could have finagled this, because insurance companies would have ruled him ineligible for coverage for his cancer treatments if he received said coverage after his initial diagnosis.

which says a lot about the risk oakley were prepared to take for a guy who had yet to win a GT, a good cyclist but not a 7 time TdF winner?

could be more shít to hit the fan for a texan...

 

[Berzin]

A few years ago I had what was arguably (from the doctor's standpoint, because their reimbursement rates were some of the highest in the industry) one of the best medical insurance policies out there.

I still had to wait a whole year just to receive treatment for my seasonal allergies when I changed from one policy to another. All that drama just to get a Claritin-D prescription.

I just don't see how Armstrong found an insurance company to pick up the astronomical costs of his cancer treatment post-diagnosis unless he continued with his COBRA payments and kept the insurance he already had.

You certainly can backdate an employment history, but those health insurance papers are a different story.

 

[Polish]

A few years ago I had what was arguably (from the doctor's standpoint, because their reimbursement rates were some of the highest in the industry) one of the best medical insurance policies out there.

I still had to wait a whole year just to receive treatment for my seasonal allergies when I changed from one policy to another. All that drama just to get a Claritin-D prescription.

I just don't see how Armstrong found an insurance company to pick up the astronomical costs of his cancer treatment post-diagnosis unless he continued with his COBRA payments and kept the insurance he already had.

You certainly can backdate an employment history, but those health insurance papers are a different story.

Does anyone know the name of the Insurance Company that covered Lance?

You could not blame them if the tooted their own horn and promoted the fact that they so helped a certain struggling young athlete by the name of Lance Armstrong.

Would not suprise me either if Lance later reciprocated and helped that Company in some way. Taking care of eachother. Honorable.

A far cry from the dope dealing and snitching that seems to be so common these days

PS: The fact that you had to "wait a whole year just to receive treatment for seasonal allergies" and Lance found world class treatment right away is not a suprise lol. That Lance initiated a Foundation soon after and you did not is not a suprise either lol lol.

 

[thehog]

A few years ago I had what was arguably (from the doctor's standpoint, because their reimbursement rates were some of the highest in the industry) one of the best medical insurance policies out there.

I still had to wait a whole year just to receive treatment for my seasonal allergies when I changed from one policy to another. All that drama just to get a Claritin-D prescription.

I just don't see how Armstrong found an insurance company to pick up the astronomical costs of his cancer treatment post-diagnosis unless he continued with his COBRA payments and kept the insurance he already had.

You certainly can backdate an employment history, but those health insurance papers are a different story.

...not to mention the 500k donation to the hospital for document shredding.