Johan gets served

[Semper Fidelis]

To me it seemed like the absolute worst thing to do in a situation like this is to say, "no comment." The reason is because now you no longer own that conversation and a reporter can make his own conclusions. I decided to ask a public relations person who works for many professional athletes, including cyclists, for a professional opinion.

"It's all about public perception," my PR expert told me. "A ‘no comment' means you're guilty."

And that's what it's all about - public perception. At this point it looks like the RadioShack-Nissan management has something to hide. They should either cop to it and say something to the effect of, "Yes Johan was served and is cooperating fully" or go with John Travolta's lawyer style of full denial, "No, he wasn't served - it's a complete lie, we're suing everyone!"

Right now I assure you reporters are digging into this "no comment" and the truth will come out one way or another. My advice to Mr Bruyneel: just come out and state the truth. If you don't, it will come back to bite you in the ****.
http://www.roadcycling.com/articles...lifornia---Another-Year-of-Drama_004872.shtml

well you should know best.

 

[JRTinMA]

To me it seemed like the absolute worst thing to do in a situation like this is to say, "no comment." The reason is because now you no longer own that conversation and a reporter can make his own conclusions. I decided to ask a public relations person who works for many professional athletes, including cyclists, for a professional opinion.

"It's all about public perception," my PR expert told me. "A ‘no comment' means you're guilty."

And that's what it's all about - public perception. At this point it looks like the RadioShack-Nissan management has something to hide. They should either cop to it and say something to the effect of, "Yes Johan was served and is cooperating fully" or go with John Travolta's lawyer style of full denial, "No, he wasn't served - it's a complete lie, we're suing everyone!"

Right now I assure you reporters are digging into this "no comment" and the truth will come out one way or another. My advice to Mr Bruyneel: just come out and state the truth. If you don't, it will come back to bite you in the ****.

http://www.roadcycling.com/articles...lifornia---Another-Year-of-Drama_004872.shtml

Props for working John Travolta into a cycling forum!

 

[Cal_Joe]

Props for working John Travolta into a cycling forum!

The Travolta reference (and hoggy's entire post) is from the article he linked to. He just forgot to indicate that he did not write what he posted. Hope the truth does not come back to bite him in the...

Last time I looked, I was not charged extra to use the quote keys on my laptop, but that may differ by country.

 

[thehog]

I think Bruyneel could be a security risk. If he's been trafficking drugs into then US then he's in trouble. I'd hate to think if any of the younger riders get caught up in his old school ways. That would be bad. If Lance admitted and paid back his victims then he'd be sweet with me. But I'm not sure I can forgive Johan. It's one thing to mess up Europe with his drug culture but he'd better not have brought his filth into the US.

 

[mewmewmew13]

I still can't believe he was caught off guard. Jeez, I mean we knew he was in trouble....

Either he has no legal advisors left or they gave him bad advice.

Or he and what'hisname just believe in their own myth and invincibility so much that they thought it had blown over....

It will be interesting to see how this develops.

 

[thehog]

I still can't believe he was caught off guard. Jeez, I mean we knew he was in trouble....

Either he has no legal advisors left or they gave him bad advice.

Or he and what'hisname just believe in their own myth and invincibility so much that they thought it had blown over....

It will be interesting to see how this develops.

You'd think when Lance was downing those tequila shots in celebration he would have Skyped Johan and told him not to come to the US?

Makes you wonder if part of Fabani's deal to get Armstrong off the hook dropped Hog into the pit.

They stood so proudly together back at the 2010 ToC - we have nothing to hide.

Interesting to see Armstrong's next play. Maybe not so willing to appear in Men's interest magazines?

 

[woodburn]

and the story changes again;

Armstrong also talks of wanting to win the Iron Man championship in the June edition of Men's Journal. And while he always has denied using PEDs he does confess to going on a bender in February, when federal prosecutors dropped an investigation of him that had lasted nearly two years.

"We just got (expletive) plastered," Armstrong says. "About five of my buddies came over, and we just sat there and got hammered. I don't even remember the night . . . Tequila. Shots. I don't even remember getting to bed. I was that kind of drunk."

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...armstrong-im-done-fighting-drug-allegations/1

Why would he need to celebrate the investigation being dropped if he was innocent?

What happened to the bravado two years ago ... "We have nothing to hide. We have nothing to run from."

"It's our word against his word. I like our word. We like our credibility. Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago."

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5204726

 

[mewmewmew13]

Why would he need to celebrate the investigation being dropped if he was innocent?

What happened to the bravado two years ago ... "We have nothing to hide. We have nothing to run from."

"It's our word against his word. I like our word. We like our credibility. Floyd lost his credibility a long time ago."

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cycling/news/story?id=5204726

This is especially gag-inducing---

"I've always known Floyd as an angry person ... somebody who's basically angry with the world," Bruyneel said. "To me it sounds like he just wants to drag down people who are still there and enjoying this."


"It's very sad," Armstrong said. "At one point or another, all of us implicated have cared about Floyd. We might have been on different teams or from different backgrounds in our lives, but at some point or another we shared the bond that we all gave Floyd a ladder. When he dug himself in a hole, we gave him a ladder to dig out of ... now people aren't throwing ladders at him anymore." Armstrong said Landis started sending text messages to him a few years ago. Armstrong said the texts got "annoying."


The noose tightens....

 

[MarkvW]

This is especially gag-inducing---

"I've always known Floyd as an angry person ... somebody who's basically angry with the world," Bruyneel said. "To me it sounds like he just wants to drag down people who are still there and enjoying this."


"It's very sad," Armstrong said. "At one point or another, all of us implicated have cared about Floyd. We might have been on different teams or from different backgrounds in our lives, but at some point or another we shared the bond that we all gave Floyd a ladder. When he dug himself in a hole, we gave him a ladder to dig out of ... now people aren't throwing ladders at him anymore." Armstrong said Landis started sending text messages to him a few years ago. Armstrong said the texts got "annoying."


The noose tightens....

Okay, "the noose tightens . . ." but upon whose neck?

 

[mewmewmew13]

Okay, "the noose tightens . . ." but upon whose neck?

I'll let you pick

I believe in karma

 

[thehog]

Okay, "the noose tightens . . ." but upon whose neck?

The UCI need to step in here. If Johan is under Federal investigation for drug trafficking then he needs to be removed from the sport. It's the right thing to do. Otherwise the sport gets brought into disrepute. He should step away until the investigation and questioning of his crimes are concluded.

On a sporting note this can't be good for Andy Shleck's Tour chances. Being slurred with Bruyneel's drug history with Lance can't be good. I hope he can stay focused.

 

[BroDeal]

Why would he need to celebrate the investigation being dropped if he was innocent?

I am imagining what his friends told their wives.

"Hey, honey. Lance isn't going to be prosecuted for the crimes he committed. He's throwing a party. Don't wait up. I'll be back at three or four in the morning."

The wife is left wondering if it is a good example for the kids to have their father partying with a creep.

 

[MarkvW]

The UCI need to step in here. If Johan is under Federal investigation for drug trafficking then he needs to be removed from the sport. It's the right thing to do. Otherwise the sport gets brought into disrepute. He should step away until the investigation and questioning of his crimes are concluded.

On a sporting note this can't be good for Andy Shleck's Tour chances. Being slurred with Bruyneel's drug history with Lance can't be good. I hope he can stay focused.

I hope Schleck tanks and we never hear from him again. What a fantastically boring racer (and supporter of Contador).

 

[Race Radio]

Has anyone seen Johan lately? Hope he did not get kidnapped by the same Nazi Frogmen who spike the 99 samples

Wonder who Johan is more scared of, the Feds or Wonderboy?

 

[BotanyBay]

All you did was weaken a sport today, Kaffee.

 

[BotanyBay]

Armstrong said Landis started sending text messages to him a few years ago. Armstrong said the texts got "annoying."

Almost as annoying as Greg Lemond's daughter being twitter-stalked by Lance?

"Take it easy"

That's what he said.

 

[MarkvW]

You can't HANDLE the peloton!

 

[BotanyBay]

"We were supposed to fight for Floyd. For Tyler. For Georgie"

 

[doolols]

The UCI need to step in here. If Johan is under Federal investigation for drug trafficking then he needs to be removed from the sport.

But at his moment, all we have is unverified reports that he's been served a subpoena. We don't know if this is in connection with an investigation into him, or whether he's to give evidence into a different investigation. The former is likely, but we still don't know.

On a sporting note this can't be good for Andy Shleck's Tour chances. Being slurred with Bruyneel's drug history with Lance can't be good. I hope he can stay focused.

Yeah, I'm sure no one in that team had any idea that there was any suggestion of a drug history. Come on, the pro peleton know all about this.

 

[BotanyBay]

But at his moment, all we have is unverified reports that he's been served a subpoena. We don't know if this is in connection with an investigation into him, or whether he's to give evidence into a different investigation. The former is likely, but we still don't know.



Yeah, I'm sure no one in that team had any idea that there was any suggestion of a drug history. Come on, the pro peleton know all about this.

We need a special web-specific font titled "Sarcasm" (so people will know).

 

[eleven]

The UCI need to step in here. If Johan is under Federal investigation for drug trafficking then he needs to be removed from the sport. It's the right thing to do.

There is no credible evidence that Johan is being investigated for drug trafficking.

 

[thehog]

There is no credible evidence that Johan is being investigated for drug trafficking.

The Feds don’t mess about. They don’t subpoena for fun. Especially International citizens. He’s in a lot of trouble. He has a long history of drug related crimes. The UCI should pull him from the race and the ethics committee should revoke his DS license.

Let’s not get silly here and start defending the undefendable.

 

[JRTinMA]

The Feds don’t mess about. They don’t subpoena for fun. Especially International citizens. He’s in a lot of trouble. He has a long history of drug related crimes. The UCI should pull him from the race and the ethics committee should revoke his DS license.

Let’s not get silly here and start defending the undefendable.

We do have a process where innocence is assumed. Via your zeal or intentional sensationalism you are getting ahead of yourself. Simmer down and wait for the slimmest of facts before you jump in head first.

 

[Race Radio]

We do have a process where innocence is assumed. Via your zeal or intentional sensationalism you are getting ahead of yourself. Simmer down and wait for the slimmest of facts before you jump in head first.

You are referring to a court of law.

You are welcome to ignore the obvious but it will only disappoint you in the end

 

[thehog]

We do have a process where innocence is assumed. Via your zeal or intentional sensationalism you are getting ahead of yourself. Simmer down and wait for the slimmest of facts before you jump in head first.

Sure we do. But not for international drug criminals.

I’ll I’m asking is the UCI do the right thing and pull him from the sport until the investigation has concluded. It’s the right thing to do for the sport. It can’t afford anymore black eyes. There’s young guys in the this sport and they need to be protected.