Johan gets served

[rhubroma]

But what if (before, during, and after Lance) almost the entire pro peloton is either composed of "doping, lying scumbags" or the people who support them? Is any support of such "sport" morally justifiable under such circumstances? Are not all the fans of such a filthy sport complicit with the "lying, doping scumbags" to one degree or another?

You are parading all sorts of moral absolutes at the Lance Fanboy while your own moral position is vulnerable to the exact same attack. Don't you have to ask yourself why you support a sport that depends on systematic dopers and kills some of them? And for you to call somebody else nasty is exquisitely rich. I doubt you can resist the impulse to be nasty in your response to me. I'm still smarting from your last insult .

Well, in fact, we should all given up the sport years ago, if not form the beginning.

In the end what counts are the particular instances, from which one formulates what remains within the realm of "tolerability." Taking for granted that there are no moral absolutes.

On the other hand, there are simply times when it is necessary to call a spade a spade.

 

[thehog]

Here is a brief video from Lance on Gavin Newsom`s new late night show. The whole interview is shown Friday night.

LANCE ARMSTRONG I'M DONE After 500+ Negative Doping Tests!!

Oh dear.... Was that before Hog got busted?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

It is funny how people like this, who now swear that they are disinterested in the Armstrong case, find it necessary to troll forums to tell everyone how obsessed they are. They even claim they love the sport. Well, guess what, Skippy? The sport would not be in the position it is in today if people like you had not spent years defending doping, lying scumbags like Lance Armstrong. You are responsible for the nastiness swirling around cycling fandom because you continually fought against the truth, denied it, obfuscated it, did everything you could to prevent the public from knowing it. Armstrong would never have been able to get away with his fraud without people like you. So take a bow.

Very well said.

But what if (before, during, and after Lance) almost the entire pro peloton is either composed of "doping, lying scumbags" or the people who support them? Is any support of such "sport" morally justifiable under such circumstances? Are not all the fans of such a filthy sport complicit with the "lying, doping scumbags" to one degree or another?

You are parading all sorts of moral absolutes at the Lance Fanboy while your own moral position is vulnerable to the exact same attack. Don't you have to ask yourself why you support a sport that depends on systematic dopers and kills some of them? And for you to call somebody else nasty is exquisitely rich. I doubt you can resist the impulse to be nasty in your response to me. I'm still smarting from your last insult .

WE ALL INHABIT THE SAME GLASS HOUSE HERE.

I have to ask - do you think anyone remotely heeds or believes your drivel?

I thought you were busy getting angry at dopers like Floyd and demanding he payback some people - people who you are now saying should share some of the blame for believing in sport of dopers?

As to the highlighted - its statements like that which exposé that you have never ridden or been involved in the sport.

 

[MarkvW]

Very well said.




I have to ask - do you think anyone remotely heeds or believes your drivel?

I thought you were busy getting angry at dopers like Floyd and demanding he payback some people - people who you are now saying should share some of the blame for believing in sport of dopers?

As to the highlighted - its statements like that which exposé that you have never ridden or been involved in the sport.

A complex moral issue does not translate well in the Maserati Vortex.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

A complex moral issue does not translate well in the Maserati Vortex.

Mark - please, there is nothing remotely complex about your "moral issue", you have none.

 

[MarkvW]

Mark - please, there is nothing remotely complex about your "moral issue", you have none.

I feel the pull of the Vortex. I...must...resist...

 

[thehog]

I don`t know. I only heard a few days ago he was the first guest on Gavin Newsom`s new show. That video was only put up today.

He has the fake tan thing going on. Most shocking is he can't stop lying. You can see that he wants to appear normal but he really is losing it. He looks like he's going to fall apart.

My favorite line; "500 tests maybe even 600 tests! All negative. What are they going to do about that?"

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I feel the pull of the Vortex. I...must...resist...

The only vortex you ever get caught in is that your moral compass spins constantly.

Hey, maybe the Feds pulled Johan in to discuss a potential lawsuit so that innocent victims can get their money back for "We Might As Well Win"?
That would make you happy, right?

 

[MarkvW]

The only vortex you ever get caught in is that your moral compass spins constantly.

Hey, maybe the Feds pulled Johan in to discuss a potential lawsuit so that innocent victims can get their money back for "We Might As Well Win"?
That would make you happy, right?

There is no discussion in the Maserati Vortex. There is only attack...attack..link, please...attack... Must resist the Vortex...

 

[Dr. Maserati]

There is no discussion in the Maserati Vortex. There is only attack...attack..link, please...attack... Must resist the Vortex...

Discussion, with you?
I asked you a question (but don't worry, I knew you would not answer) and you continue with your new drivel (im sure if you repeat it someone will find it amusing )

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

The only vortex you ever get caught in is that your moral compass spins constantly.

Hey, maybe the Feds pulled Johan in to discuss a potential lawsuit so that innocent victims can get their money back for "We Might As Well Win"?
That would make you happy, right?

At this point MarkvW is the knight in Monty Python yelling about a flesh wound.

You've reduced the guy to meaningless ramblings. No need for another round of beating.

 

[mewmewmew13]

He has the fake tan thing going on. Most shocking is he can't stop lying. You can see that he wants to appear normal but he really is losing it. He looks like he's going to fall apart.

My favorite line; "500 tests maybe even 600 tests! All negative. What are they going to do about that?"

wow maybe 600! it's rising. soon to be nearly 1000?

I think the cover of him on MJ is really strange...airbrush and oh so natural
--ish!

WHat do you suppose Johan thinks about that cover and article coming out when it did?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

At this point MarkvW is the knight in Monty Python yelling about a flesh wound.

You've reduced the guy to meaningless ramblings. No need for another round of beating.

Fair point.
Although I would show a little more tolerance if the closet LA apologists didn't pretend that they actually care about (let alone have an interest in) the sport.

It seems Armstrong cannot avoid the limelight and his latest offering make him sound as credible as Marion Jones - so the sooner LA goes back to Triathlon the better.

 

[BotanyBay]

Mark. Maserati.

Stop it with the mutual insults.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yes was just going to suggest the same Mark and DrM

Take it to PMs.....

leave this for breaking news and important digs at Johan and his bunch...

 

[thehog]

wow maybe 600! it's rising. soon to be nearly 1000?

I think the cover of him on MJ is really strange...airbrush and oh so natural
--ish!

WHat do you suppose Johan thinks about that cover and article coming out when it did?

It's such a cack! I think this was the re-launch of Lance but he didn't realize Hog was going to bundled up by the Feds. Problem being the article was already out and the show pre-recorded. Be interesting to see his next move. If we see another fake tan effort then maybe he's just going for broke - 1000 tests!

The Hog must be sitting in the team bus, sunglasses on and a bottle of whiskey thinking how did he get into this mess.

I'd say Shleck Jnr. is making friends with Kim again. He's back in the car!

 

[BotanyBay]

It's such a cack! I think this was the re-launch of Lance but he didn't realize Hog was going to bundled up by the Feds. Problem being the article was already out and the show pre-recorded. Be interesting to see his next move. If we see another fake tan effort then maybe he's just going for broke - 1000 tests!

The Hog must be sitting in the team bus, sunglasses on and a bottle of whiskey thinking how did he get into this mess.

I'd say Shleck Jnr. is making friends with Kim again. He's back in the car!

I'm wondering if Hog's in San Diego right now.

 

[mewmewmew13]

It's such a cack! I think this was the re-launch of Lance but he didn't realize Hog was going to bundled up by the Feds. Problem being the article was already out and the show pre-recorded. Be interesting to see his next move. If we see another fake tan effort then maybe he's just going for broke - 1000 tests!

The Hog must be sitting in the team bus, sunglasses on and a bottle of whiskey thinking how did he get into this mess.

I'd say Shleck Jnr. is making friends with Kim again. He's back in the car!

Just laughing out loud about the whole absurdity and imagery!!
funny stuff

A reordering of the driver's seat.

btw I can't bring myself to watch that clip of Lance but --really--fake tan??
creepy

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Yes was just going to suggest the same Mark and DrM

Take it to PMs.....

leave this for breaking news and important digs at Johan and his bunch...

There is nothing to take to PMs - Mark wont answer any questions because he cant answer the questions.

The highlighted is my dilema

I'm wondering if Hog's in San Diego right now.

You mean to say hello to.....

 

[doolols]

[off topic]

LANCE ARMSTRONG I'M DONE After 500+ Negative Doping Tests!!

And here we are, pre-empting any news which may or may not be coming out. "500, 600 tests, all negative! What are they going to do about that?" So, it's not his fault he doped - someone should have tested him positive. In fact, that's why he gave the UCI that money for the testing machine - he wanted to be caught all along!

[/off topic]

 

[thehog]

[off topic]



And here we are, pre-empting any news which may or may not be coming out. "500, 600 tests, all negative! What are they going to do about that?" So, it's not his fault he doped - someone should have tested him positive. In fact, that's why he gave the UCI that money for the testing machine - he wanted to be caught all along!

[/off topic]

We just need Johan to confess all now make Mr. 600 tests look even more stupid than he's already looking.

 

[mewmewmew13]

We just need Johan to confess all now make Mr. 600 tests look even more stupid than he's already looking.

I caved. Had to see what could be coming out of his mouth.
He is so animatedly trying to act caz that it looks twitchy to me....

Johan, you and Lance had a good thing....but Lance is going Hollywood and you are in the rear view mirror....

oh some good advice:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/100112-spray-tanning-dangers/

 

[thehog]

I caved. Had to see what could be coming out of his mouth.
He is so animatedly trying to act caz that it looks twitchy to me....

Johan, you and Lance had a good thing....but Lance is going Hollywood and you are in the rear view mirror....

oh some good advice:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/100112-spray-tanning-dangers/

Love it! How about? http://www.livestrong.com/compulsive-lying/

The silliness in all on this is nobody really outside the clinic was talking about doping. Why is he coming out now to tell us he's not talking about doping?

Ahhhhh USADA!

I'm not sure if he non-contests do the findings and the evidence still get published?

I assume "they" in what are they going to say about that is USADA?

He's a very strange man. Something clearly not right with him.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Love it! How about? http://www.livestrong.com/compulsive-lying/

The silliness in all on this is nobody really outside the clinic was talking about doping. Why is he coming out now to tell us he's not talking about doping?

Ahhhhh USADA!

I'm not sure if he non-contests do the findings and the evidence still get published?

I assume "they" in what are they going to say about that is USADA?

He's a very strange man. Something clearly not right with him.

This is so amazing...he should read his own website and try learn from it!?
As RR appears to be traveling and not here I feel I must honor this phrase and keep it alive---
this is "Comedy Gold" from your link:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/77994-compulsive-liar-symptoms/

"Fear is a common reason why many people become compulsive liars, according to Mental Health Matters. It could stem from something that happened to them when they were younger. They fear being punished if they tell the truth, and that fear could soon turn into a habit of lying. They might continue to lie when their false story has been discovered, trying to convince people the lie is really the truth."



Johan take note please

 

[eleven]

The Feds don’t mess about. They don’t subpoena for fun. Especially International citizens. He’s in a lot of trouble. He has a long history of drug related crimes. The UCI should pull him from the race and the ethics committee should revoke his DS license.

Let’s not get silly here and start defending the undefendable.

One would think that the Hog of all people would learn to quit absolutely uninformed speculation.

"A long history of drug-related crimes"?! In light of the new policies regarding links, proof etc...perhaps you'd like to demonstrate the evidence for such a salacious claim?

Let's not get silly here and start making **** up.