Juan Ayuso discussion thread

[Tim Cahill]

Which values?!? 😅

I truly hope that he doesn’t start tomorrow and doesn’t ride with the UAE again. I’m not saying this out of hate, just think it’s the best for everyone (Ayuso, UAE, his current colleagues, his future team, the fans) to have a clean slate and leave all this statements and not sportsmanship behaviours behind. Another two weeks of scrutinising which breaks his goes, if and how many pulls his does for the etc cannot be good for everyone.

It would be the right move to get him out of the race, but they seem obsessed with this HTC win record, so they won't. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they tell him to try and get in the breakaway tomorrow.

I know I'll be tuning in, the organisers must be thrilled, race was about to turn into a boring walkover now this happens.

 

[Gratemans]

...race was about to turn into a boring walkover now this happens.

Hm.. I don't know. This is still the Vuelta. Weird things always happen here, and we've only seen one proper mountain stage so far in my book.

Two more weeks to go with both the Angliru and the Alto de El Morredero coming up.
About that latter one: it looks pretty daunting but I don't know it. Has it been in the Vuelta before?

(It sure has a bad-ass name btw)

 

[Tim Cahill]

Hm.. I don't know. This is still the Vuelta. Weird things always happen here, and we've only seen one proper mountain stage so far in my book.

Hopefully, though Almeida will need a strong team indeed to pull it off. They also might need to have a quiet word with Soler about some of his extra curricular ambitions.

Unless someone random fancies getting 5 minutes in a break.

 

[Danskebjerge]

Is that reported to be a done deal? Because I thought that the reason a Movistar transfer wasn't going to happen was that they couldn't afford to buy out his current contract. But if the old contract is terminated, they might be back in the game? I think it would work for both sides, clearly money isn't the number 1 factor for Ayuso.

Maybe the rumours run faster when chaos takes over - like here in the middle of a stage race.

 

[Cycling111]

What values are he talking about? He extended his contract wheb he already knew the team.
But the best part is that he created a team called the UAE Ayuso team LOL
When he created a team with that name and sponsored it from UAE, did he not have values? 😅

 

[Hugh Januss]

Hopefully, though Almeida will need a strong team indeed to pull it off. They also might need to have a quiet word with Soler about some of his extra curricular ambitions.

Unless someone random fancies getting 5 minutes in a break.

I don't know if Soler is governed by personal ambition, I think he literally looses his mind at some points in the race. Yesterday he was dangling at the back when Vingo attacked and his reaction seemed to be to fight his way back up through the group and then try to get up to Almeida to help him chase (I assume). Fortunately he didn't have the suds because he was dragging 2/3rds of the top ten along with him.

 

[Tim Cahill]

I don't know if Soler is governed by personal ambition, I think he literally looses his mind at some points in the race. Yesterday he was dangling at the back when Vingo attacked and his reaction seemed to be to fight his way back up through the group and then try to get up to Almeida to help him chase (I assume). Fortunately he didn't have the suds because he was dragging 2/3rds of the top ten along with him.

The headloss theory could be right. I can't remember if I've imagined the whole scenario because it seems absurd, but I swear there was a moment in The Tour on Ventoux after the big attack had gone. They were way up the road and it panned to the 2nd group, and all of a sudden you see a white jersey stick in a big impressive looking attack, I thought it was Lipowitz until the entire string of Tour podium contenders collectively look around dumbfounded, as Marc Soler attempts to bridge a massive gap to 'Tadej Pogacar' and 'Jonas Vingeggard'. He might just be crazy, rather than selfish.

 

[noob]

The headloss theory could be right. I can't remember if I've imagined the whole scenario because it seems absurd, but I swear there was a moment in The Tour on Ventoux after the big attack had gone. They were way up the road and it panned to the 2nd group, and all of a sudden you see a white jersey stick in a big impressive looking attack, I thought it was Lipowitz until the entire string of Tour podium contenders collectively look around dumbfounded, as Marc Soler attempts to bridge a massive gap to 'Tadej Pogacar' and 'Jonas Vingeggard'. He might just be crazy, rather than selfish.

He really seems bat *** crazy. Rarely a dull moment. Adore him!

 

[AnotherArmChair]

'to better aligns with his values' - Ayuso statement on leaving UAE

' this decision is the most consistent with the values that define our organization.' - Gianetti

Ha ha ha

Who knew they all had so many values ( esp ones that couldn't align)

 

[CyclistAbi]

The way Ayuso was mistreated by this team, sports media and fandom is just beyond. Luckily this is now all behind him and hence time to win some more stages and do that majestic pull for Almeida, when Almeida requests launch assistance.

 

[jono]

As a final act of spite Ayuso should ride as the perfect servant to Almeida for the rest of the Vuelta.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Why would Ayuso have spite for UAE? They gave him both Giro and Vuelta leadership this year alone.

 

[CyclistAbi]

They gave him both Giro and Vuelta leadership this year alone.

Tour, though.

 

[veganrob]

Movistar for sure!

He can go to Movistar where his career is sure to die.

 

[CyclistAbi]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLCWSWtTUNY

 

[CyclistAbi]

Will Ayuso be on UAE blacklist in 2026 season and will it matter?

 

[jono]

Why would Ayuso have spite for UAE? They gave him both Giro and Vuelta leadership this year alone.

Co-leadership is not leadership.

 

[Rob5091]

Ayuso has eye problems?! "differences in vision"
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ju...ontract-to-leave-uae-team-emirates-xrg-early/

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Co-leadership is not leadership.

Yeah, Ayuso faded at the Giro because he wasn't "the sole leader". Right.
Dude got dropped like a rock here, when he was talking about GC before the Vuelta.

 

[proffate]

Yeah, Ayuso faded at the Giro because he wasn't "the sole leader". Right.
Dude got dropped like a rock here, when he was talking about GC before the Vuelta.

That's cause he was second in line to get his massage the night before

 

[jono]

Yeah, Ayuso faded at the Giro because he wasn't "the sole leader". Right.
Dude got dropped like a rock here, when he was talking about GC before the Vuelta.

I'm not talking about the Giro. If UAE is sending you to a race with Almeida, you are not the leader and every knows that. I believe UAE's pre-Vuelta announcement even called Almeida the leader and Ayuso co-leader. What does that tell you?

He's allowed to have his own ambitions and this relationship does not fall apart without issues on both sides.

 

[pastronef]

Let's be honest.
Those who still defend Ayuso = Pogacar haters.
Now,it's clear to everyone.

I'm not a Pog hater. I was over the mon when he beat Visma/Rogla in 2020, I had just praises for his Flanders wins and the wild world championships and I wanted him to win Roubaix. but now I'd like more competition in grand tours, so I side for Visma and Jonas. and the haters made me an Ayuso fan.

 

[Netserk]

Let's be honest.
Those who still defend Ayuso = Pogacar haters.
Now,it's clear to everyone.

There is more to cycling than wonder boy.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

What about Soler and Vine yesterday, or McNulty at the Giro? This is just UAE being UAE

Those guys (as well as Almeida or Yates) have helped their temmates in the past (not always but they did). Ayuso hardly ever did it, there's always been some problem with it even when it comes to helping Pogacar (no wonder he almost never goes to races with Pogacar where a full commitment is required).

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So Ayuso is gone. It was the most reasonable solution given the circumstances. UAE reduced his buyout money, right? (it would make sense).