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Cycling111

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Valv.Piti said:
He's kinda right though. The only ones I have seen defending Ayuso lately is Red Rick who has a clear anti-Pog agenda
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Amd other user anti-Pogacar who criticizes any nonsense about him and defends everything in this thread.
By reading both threads you realize.
 
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Valv.Piti said:
He's kinda right though. The only ones I have seen defending Ayuso lately is Red Rick who has a clear anti-Pog agenda
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I'm not keeping tabs on all that so you might very well be right.
It's just.. not everybody criticising a rider should immediately be labeled a hater.

I just thought about it a minute and realised that, you know, I'm just well f-ing fed up with the polarization of society in general. The world isn't black and white. Not every point of critique means someone hates the person they're critical of. Nor should you think that everything your favourite <insert hero> does is beyond reproach.
 
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Gratemans said:
I'm not keeping tabs on all that so you might very well be right.
It's just.. not everybody criticising a rider should immediately be labeled a hater.

I just thought about it a minute and realised that, you know, I'm just well f-ing fed up with the polarization of society in general. The world isn't black and white. Not every point of critique means someone hates the person they're critical of. Nor should you think that everything your favourite <insert hero> does is beyond reproach.
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When it's systematic... hum...
But I agree with you.
 
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Ilmaestro99 said:
He says that he's going somewhere that 'better aligns with his values'

https://twitter.com/x/status/1962600235223449818
View: https://x.com/juann_ayuso/status/1962600235223449818?t=79L-pW9RDEVyZ3r_SxNa-w&s=19
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Which values?!? 😅

I truly hope that he doesn’t start tomorrow and doesn’t ride with the UAE again. I’m not saying this out of hate, just think it’s the best for everyone (Ayuso, UAE, his current colleagues, his future team, the fans) to have a clean slate and leave all this statements and not sportsmanship behaviours behind. Another two weeks of scrutinising which breaks his goes, if and how many pulls his does for the etc cannot be good for everyone.
 
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greyclouds said:
Which values?!? 😅

I truly hope that he doesn’t start tomorrow and doesn’t ride with the UAE again. I’m not saying this out of hate, just think it’s the best for everyone (Ayuso, UAE, his current colleagues, his future team, the fans) to have a clean slate and leave all this statements and not sportsmanship behaviours behind. Another two weeks of scrutinising which breaks his goes, if and how many pulls his does for the etc cannot be good for everyone.
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It would be the right move to get him out of the race, but they seem obsessed with this HTC win record, so they won't. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they tell him to try and get in the breakaway tomorrow.

I know I'll be tuning in, the organisers must be thrilled, race was about to turn into a boring walkover now this happens.
 
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Tim Cahill said:
...race was about to turn into a boring walkover now this happens.
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Hm.. I don't know. This is still the Vuelta. Weird things always happen here, and we've only seen one proper mountain stage so far in my book.

Two more weeks to go with both the Angliru and the Alto de El Morredero coming up.
About that latter one: it looks pretty daunting but I don't know it. Has it been in the Vuelta before?

(It sure has a bad-ass name btw)
 
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Gratemans said:
Hm.. I don't know. This is still the Vuelta. Weird things always happen here, and we've only seen one proper mountain stage so far in my book.
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Hopefully, though Almeida will need a strong team indeed to pull it off. They also might need to have a quiet word with Soler about some of his extra curricular ambitions.

Unless someone random fancies getting 5 minutes in a break.
 
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MagliaNera said:
Is that reported to be a done deal? Because I thought that the reason a Movistar transfer wasn't going to happen was that they couldn't afford to buy out his current contract. But if the old contract is terminated, they might be back in the game? I think it would work for both sides, clearly money isn't the number 1 factor for Ayuso.
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Maybe the rumours run faster when chaos takes over - like here in the middle of a stage race.
 
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What values are he talking about? He extended his contract wheb he already knew the team.
But the best part is that he created a team called the UAE Ayuso team LOL
When he created a team with that name and sponsored it from UAE, did he not have values? 😅
 
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Tim Cahill said:
Hopefully, though Almeida will need a strong team indeed to pull it off. They also might need to have a quiet word with Soler about some of his extra curricular ambitions.

Unless someone random fancies getting 5 minutes in a break.
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I don't know if Soler is governed by personal ambition, I think he literally looses his mind at some points in the race. Yesterday he was dangling at the back when Vingo attacked and his reaction seemed to be to fight his way back up through the group and then try to get up to Almeida to help him chase (I assume). Fortunately he didn't have the suds because he was dragging 2/3rds of the top ten along with him.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
I don't know if Soler is governed by personal ambition, I think he literally looses his mind at some points in the race. Yesterday he was dangling at the back when Vingo attacked and his reaction seemed to be to fight his way back up through the group and then try to get up to Almeida to help him chase (I assume). Fortunately he didn't have the suds because he was dragging 2/3rds of the top ten along with him.
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The headloss theory could be right. I can't remember if I've imagined the whole scenario because it seems absurd, but I swear there was a moment in The Tour on Ventoux after the big attack had gone. They were way up the road and it panned to the 2nd group, and all of a sudden you see a white jersey stick in a big impressive looking attack, I thought it was Lipowitz until the entire string of Tour podium contenders collectively look around dumbfounded, as Marc Soler attempts to bridge a massive gap to 'Tadej Pogacar' and 'Jonas Vingeggard'. He might just be crazy, rather than selfish.
 
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Tim Cahill said:
The headloss theory could be right. I can't remember if I've imagined the whole scenario because it seems absurd, but I swear there was a moment in The Tour on Ventoux after the big attack had gone. They were way up the road and it panned to the 2nd group, and all of a sudden you see a white jersey stick in a big impressive looking attack, I thought it was Lipowitz until the entire string of Tour podium contenders collectively look around dumbfounded, as Marc Soler attempts to bridge a massive gap to 'Tadej Pogacar' and 'Jonas Vingeggard'. He might just be crazy, rather than selfish.
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He really seems bat *** crazy. Rarely a dull moment. Adore him!
 
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'to better aligns with his values' - Ayuso statement on leaving UAE

' this decision is the most consistent with the values that define our organization.' - Gianetti

Ha ha ha

Who knew they all had so many values ( esp ones that couldn't align)
 
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The way Ayuso was mistreated by this team, sports media and fandom is just beyond. Luckily this is now all behind him and hence time to win some more stages and do that majestic pull for Almeida, when Almeida requests launch assistance.
 
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