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red_flanders

red_flanders

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CyclistAbi said:
What in your opinion should he be doing instead today? IMHO he is doing exactly what should be done. If GC battle would start to unfold he is in perfect position to support Almeida, if not then UAE winning another stage with him or Vine, what more could you ask for?

Explain it to me.
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CyclistAbi

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"I would like to finish my career with this team well, but it seems impossible. I don't understand why UAE made a statement without informing me. This is a dictatorship, a unilateral act directed against me. They are trying to damage my reputation," he said, indicating that he was unaware of the announcement.

"After this lack of respect for each other, it is difficult to integrate. For the sake of my teammates, I want to finish in the best possible way. My relationship with them, including Almeida, is good. He deserves my support," Ayuso said to numerous microphones and cameras. He stressed, however, that "I am very happy that the decision is now known, and next year will be great." Speaking without hesitation, Ayuso said, among other things, that the team told him that he could still be happy, that the tone of the original press release was much harsher towards him.
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Translation of the part of Slovenian article above.
 
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So it’s lidl? That’s going to be a disaster scenario because of their various specialists in most of the races they attend. It’ll once again be the team, and then Ayuso
 
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Samu Cuenca

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Maybe they will reissue the press release after the Vuelta. Then they would still honour the original agreement.

However at this point I wouldn't actually be surprised if he ends up staying with the team. I'd definitely support a go fund me to make it happen, for entertainment purposes.
 
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iBanesto

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CyclistAbi said:
@iBanesto

Evidence seems to suggest UAE (plus sports media/fandom) is running a smear campaign against him. I don't feel you are a Karen if fighting that. More like a Zoro.
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Ayuso has only got himself to blame for his hate because of his selfishness and has never gone out of his way to help his team.

UAE gave him leadership in the Giro and he didn't perform against Del Torro, it is not as though UAE has blocked his chances of winning a grand tour. Last year at the TdF, he literally did f--- all for the team or even his own high GC hopes. UAE are paying him good money too.

End of the day it is a team sport.
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
UAE's main mistake was that they spoilt Ayuso too much and made him think he's a young god. At times it seems that Maxtin loves Juan. Some rider management mistakes were commited surely.
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Word on the street is he was already spoilt as a junior
 
Berniece

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Netserk said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1962875913009348943
View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1962875913009348943
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The fridge in the blue trees

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jono said:
I'm not talking about the Giro. If UAE is sending you to a race with Almeida, you are not the leader and every knows that. I believe UAE's pre-Vuelta announcement even called Almeida the leader and Ayuso co-leader. What does that tell you?
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That UAE doesn't know what co-leader actually means?

As for the rest. Galibier last year with Almeida not being happy.... Sunday dropping that early. Sunday maybe he couldn't have been much help once Vingegaard went. And nobody really expected him to go that early, if he hadn't Ayuso wouldn't have really become a topic later on. But Vinge did go early, Ayuso was already in the back. By dropping that early, even if he didn't expect to be needed, he failed to show goodwill, or the intention of helping. He deserves criticism for that, sure.

Some of it goes a bit far. Failed at the Giro? He crashed on the sterrato stage. Knee problems, wound opened up again and had some more general knee problems. That's not really failing, that's bad luck. He continued till the wasp.. Now not in form... he's not the first guy who built up for the Giro, and then fails to rebuild for the Vuelta. Most famously Remco, but there's riders like that every year, Tiberi this year for example. Certainly not ideal behaviour by Ayuso, the early release of the communiqué seems wrong too... but as Almeida seems to say in every interview: It is what it is.
 
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Netserk said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1962875913009348943
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Relevance?

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"You guys were asking me the same question every day" - Why UAE released Ayuso statement before the end of the Vuelta

Juan Ayuso is going to leave UAE Team Emirates - XRG at the end of the season and joining a new team, an agreement that had been prepared for a few weeks. However it was suddenly released mid-Vuelta a...
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The way i read it it was agreed that the joint announcement will be made after Vuelta and that is the part of an agreement that was breached.
 
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Netserk said:
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Gianetti spreading misinformation. Ayuso has said that before the race started they had agreed that the news would be announced after the race had finished. Regardless of whether the content details were known or not, he was told by UAE management that it would be published 30 minutes in advance, but he already knew that because some journalists were informed by UAE at lunch time and some of them contacted him.
 
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Rob5091

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Oh happy days!
Will Ayuso make it to Madrid? Tune in for the sporting soap opera of the year!
 
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whatever the rights and wrongs of Ayuso's behaviour UAE should not be sacking riders riding in the middle of a GT

How and why would you do that. If it had been agreed he was leaving anyway then why up the anti and sack him NOW

You have to say they were trying to make points , ie that they want rid of him at any cost and shift the 'blame ' onto him....Such poor management

As for Ayuso if he had not said anything about how they were trying to ruin his reputation he could have taken the high ground and people would infer they were indeed getting at him But now he has opened his mouth and put his foot in it

There is no doubt in my mind that Ayuso is a great talent but has been allowed to have too much hubris without the results to back it up.
Cycling is a team sport and no one wins alone

Finally he is only 22 and prob is under too much pressure even if some of it is of his own making. Hopefully he gets over this and moves on. If I were him i would dedicate myself to the team and Almeida from now on...just to show he can and as a 'up yours ' to UAE management
 
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CyclistAbi

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Ayuso was a perfect scapegoat and it suited UAE, sports media and fandom to blow that bubble out of proportion, now Ayuso penetrated it and it's over. It turned out 95% of the air in bubble had nothing to do with Ayuso in the first place. At best one could say he is a bit selfish and that is it, who isn't, the rest was you, now deal with it. Ayuso has better things to do, finishing this race and after to buy a new car and change wardrobe, suitable worries for a normal young man.
 
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