hrotha said:Nope, you don't get it. Winning or losing ultimately has little to do with it, it's all about having lots of previous history, being in one of the wrong teams, and performing above what's usually expected from you for a long while. I bet few people here thought Klödi was clean last year - unless you count those who thought he didn't want to take the risks associated with a deluxe program, what with the federal investigation and most of RS keeping it low profile (and, again, with him already having a contract for this season). Few people would be inclined to believe Popovych is clean (or, at any rate, clean of his own volition). On the other hand, most people are willing to think that, if there's any clean riders out there, Moncoutié has to be one of them, and he gets very nice results and some important wins.
You're right of course but there's some folk on here for which its true. I've had people tell me on here that Evans winning races is "evidence" of him doping.
Anyway Kloden...hard to believe he's been clean in the past - his team and his public support of Ullrich suggest strongly that he'd have juiced up to .06 at least. Beyond then? We don't know really apart from guesswork but it certainly seems more than possible unfortunately. Which is a shame because I've always liked him as he doesn't seem to have much ego about him and was prepared to play unquestioning second fiddle to Ullrich and then Armstrong/Contador in the TDF when his apparent ability and record suggested he should have had a shot himself.