Lance rakes in $2 mil for Down Under

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May 5, 2010
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thehog said:
I smell a rat. I think there was a contract signed last year and Lance is coming to collect his cash. He sure needs the funds. And he loves money.*

You wouldn't invite him knowing what's coming up. If you've got spare cash you'd get the Shleck's. I'm not buying it. Mike Turtur is not stupid. He knows what went on in the glory days and now he's signed himself to deal with the Armstrong fall out right before the statute expires. That will be a winner for tourism!

Such short sightedness is so sad. Are they trying to build cycling in Australia or destroy it?

Stupid.

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They are definately trying to destroy it (Sigh) , geez we just held the world championships what a bad job they are doing .

Im guessing that with your obsession to whine bout Armstrong and Aussies are that Lance refused to have a photo with you and some Aussie girl or Guy told you to go get knicked and you cant get over it.

Its ok Princess tomorrow is another day
 
Sydney Sider said:
They are definately trying to destroy it (Sigh) , geez we just held the world championships what a bad job they are doing .

Im guessing that with your obsession to whine bout Armstrong and Aussies are that Lance refused to have a photo with you and some Aussie girl or Guy told you to go get knicked and you cant get over it.

Its ok Princess tomorrow is another day

The world championships were great. Many many riders from all over the world competing for the honour to wear the world championship jersey. None being paid two million. It was wonderful way to show off the country.

Sadly the TDU is different. If you want to build cycling get Gilbert back. Get the Shlecks - good looking guys who the girls love and the guys want to be. Make them superstars, ride off the back of them and build cycling at the same time.

Me thinks you Aussies signed your life away to Lance last year and he's coming to get his money.

Good luck fools.
 
thehog said:
I smell a rat. I think there was a contract signed last year and Lance is coming to collect his cash. He sure needs the funds. And he loves money.*

You wouldn't invite him knowing what's coming up. If you've got spare cash you'd get the Shleck's. I'm not buying it. Mike Turtur is not stupid. He knows what went on in the glory days and now he's signed himself to deal with the Armstrong fall out right before the statute expires. That will be a winner for tourism!

Such short sightedness is so sad. Are they trying to build cycling in Australia or destroy it?

Stupid.

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agree - Turtur isn't stupid, but I reckon there's more going on in the background that may not be within his control...

I'd rather see a bigger prize purse to attract more top riders, than throwing stupid money at one rider, especially such a two-faced one as Armstrong...
 
Archibald said:
agree - Turtur isn't stupid, but I reckon there's more going on in the background that may not be within his control...

I'd rather see a bigger prize purse to attract more top riders, than throwing stupid money at one rider, especially such a two-faced one as Armstrong...



Even the normally Lance lovin' Velonewsers have given up on their man: http://velonews.competitor.com/2010...confirms-tour-down-under-farewell_147506?news - see the comments.

Go Aussies - show the world they're wrong. Lance is clean, Floyd is a liar and its still 1999.
 
I just can't get the idea of the TDU organization wanting LA back, specially under the current circumstances-he's about to disappear from the cycling world & they're willing to celebrate it by banking 2 million in his account....
 
May 5, 2010
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thehog said:
The world championships were great. Many many riders from all over the world competing for the honour to wear the world championship jersey. None being paid two million. It was wonderful way to show off the country.

Sadly the TDU is different. If you want to build cycling get Gilbert back. Get the Shlecks - good looking guys who the girls love and the guys want to be. Make them superstars, ride off the back of them and build cycling at the same time.

Me thinks you Aussies signed your life away to Lance last year and he's coming to get his money.

Good luck fools.

Im not disagreeing getting other riders would be great but unfortunately the Aussie public are unaware of these riders and if promoted would be unlikely to turn out in droves.

Im completely against Armstrong and what he has done to the sport but in reality he is going to bring people and massive publicity to the event .

If we could get other World Class riders to the event and then also use Lance's image to attract the publicity and crowds and therefore dollars it would be beneficial.

Whether you like it or not Lance is a massive public figure and is seen as a hero to millions and thats not going to change no matter what happens and he is always going to be the centre of attention while he is around the cycling world.

It happens in all sports , how much did Galaxy pay for an over the hill Beckam , Australia paid Millions for Tiger Woods to come out , our A League competition pay guests appearances for players to come out for 4 Games . (Romario, Bernito Carbone who were well and truly over thirty and past thier best).
 
Mar 17, 2009
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hfer07 said:
I just can't get the idea of the TDU organization wanting LA back, specially under the current circumstances-he's about to disappear from the cycling world & they're willing to celebrate it by banking 2 million in his account....
Wasn't the deal for two appearances? If so he may simply be fulfilling his contract.
 
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thehog said:
The world championships were great. Many many riders from all over the world competing for the honour to wear the world championship jersey. None being paid two million. It was wonderful way to show off the country.

Sadly the TDU is different. If you want to build cycling get Gilbert back. Get the Shlecks - good looking guys who the girls love and the guys want to be. Make them superstars, ride off the back of them and build cycling at the same time.

Me thinks you Aussies signed your life away to Lance last year and he's coming to get his money.

Good luck fools.

Schlecks, good looking guys? WTF
 
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JRTinMA said:
Hey hoggie, you should give your insider predictions again. He will never race in 2011, wait he will never enter Australia. Wait, he will never start the TDU, wait...

Not only will he start TDU, but just to **** off The Hog he'll start ATOC as well...then retire for good.
 

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Not only will he start TDU, but just to **** off The Hog he'll start ATOC as well...then retire for good.

Of course he will - I am suprised people would be suprised at this.

There are 3 more pulls lefty out of the Cash Cow - TDU, South Africa & TOC.

All he has said so far is he wasn't riding another TdF and had ridden his last race in Europe.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
There are 3 more pulls lefty out of the Cash Cow - TDU, South Africa & TOC.
For sure. Three races where he will be welcomed like a conquering hero, surveying his underlings and adoring fans from the middle of the pack. Three races with enough money in appearance fees to pay for months of legal fees and Fabricatani's magic words. Unless public opinion turns against him dramatically I expect to see him in the TOC again.
 

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pedaling squares said:
For sure. Three races where he will be welcomed like a conquering hero, surveying his underlings and adoring fans from the middle of the pack. Three races with enough money in appearance fees to pay for months of legal fees and Fabricatani's magic words. Unless public opinion turns against him dramatically I expect to see him in the TOC again.

ride on Lance I would love to see you in the tour of california!
 

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2beeDammed said:
Victoria paid more than that to get Tiger Woods here, I'd have rather they blew the cash on cycling like SA.

Yeah , it's interesting that people only seems to take offence at Lance being paid appearance money but it seems to be fine if other top sports people do it.:rolleyes:

Even if the original poster is right, it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia. How much money did Tiger donate i wonder...maybe a few bucks to the prostitutes collective??

Even a recent article quoted in another thread stated that LAF has raised $350 million for cancer research. What other sportsperson has even come close to doing that?

I couldn't give a toss if Lance recieved $2 or $2 million dollars, he is entitled to whatever he can negotiate.

Seems to me that there are a lot of whiners on here for whom it really rankles that Lance is actually doing something good for humanity outside of cycling and they don't like it. Why not? Well if you have a view of someone as a sociopath, then it doesn't quite fit that model if they are exhibiting humanitarian tendencies. So what do you do to reshape your view? Well you just twist the story so it appears that the person is only doing it for ego and to remain in the spotlight. You downplay the worth by quiblling about actual dollars raised and you claim that they are somehow being fraudulent in spending hundreds of hours each year travelling and working to raise funds...because that is somehow so much easier to do than sitting at home and enjoying their wealth as most of us would do.
 

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Yeah , it's interesting that people only seems to take offence at Lance being paid appearance money but it seems to be fine if other top sports people do it.:rolleyes:

Even if the original poster is right, it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia. How much money did Tiger donate i wonder...maybe a few bucks to the prostitutes collective??

Even a recent article quoted in another thread stated that LAF has raised $350 million for cancer research. What other sportsperson has even come close to doing that?

I couldn't give a toss if Lance recieved $2 or $2 million dollars, he is entitled to whatever he can negotiate.

Seems to me that there are a lot of whiners on here for whom it really rankles that Lance is actually doing something good for humanity outside of cycling and they don't like it. Why not? Well if you have a view of someone as a sociopath, then it doesn't quite fit that model if they are exhibiting humanitarian tendencies. So what do you do to reshape your view? Well you just twist the story so it appears that the person is only doing it for ego and to remain in the spotlight. You downplay the worth by quiblling about actual dollars raised and you claim that they are somehow being fraudulent in spending hundreds of hours each year travelling and working to raise funds...because that is somehow so much easier to do than sitting at home and enjoying their wealth as most of us would do.

You said "it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia".

Can you show somewhere that the LAF has actually donated money in Australia.
Also $350 million for cancer RESEARCH - have you not read the Livestong site. Little of there funds goes to research.

Also - I don't remember Tiger Woods saying he was not getting paid or the SA government saying they were donating to a charity, as they did with LA.
 
Dr. Maserati said:
You said "it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia".

Can you show somewhere that the LAF has actually donated money in Australia.
Also $350 million for cancer RESEARCH - have you not read the Livestong site. Little of there funds goes to research.

Also - I don't remember Tiger Woods saying he was not getting paid or the SA government saying they were donating to a charity, as they did with LA.

He donated the Livestrong name and all of its goodwill. He was paid 1.995MM it seems not the bloated 2MM number reported in the forum:rolleyes:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...-but-none-for-us/story-e6frea83-1225940386618

Trust me they paid Tiger more to get him there he is a far bigger star but at least he gives back to the locals, oh yeah!
 
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SpartacusRox said:
Yeah , it's interesting that people only seems to take offence at Lance being paid appearance money but it seems to be fine if other top sports people do it.:rolleyes:

Even if the original poster is right, it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia. How much money did Tiger donate i wonder...maybe a few bucks to the prostitutes collective??

Even a recent article quoted in another thread stated that LAF has raised $350 million for cancer research. What other sportsperson has even come close to doing that?

I couldn't give a toss if Lance recieved $2 or $2 million dollars, he is entitled to whatever he can negotiate.

Seems to me that there are a lot of whiners on here for whom it really rankles that Lance is actually doing something good for humanity outside of cycling and they don't like it. Why not? Well if you have a view of someone as a sociopath, then it doesn't quite fit that model if they are exhibiting humanitarian tendencies. So what do you do to reshape your view? Well you just twist the story so it appears that the person is only doing it for ego and to remain in the spotlight. You downplay the worth by quiblling about actual dollars raised and you claim that they are somehow being fraudulent in spending hundreds of hours each year travelling and working to raise funds...because that is somehow so much easier to do than sitting at home and enjoying their wealth as most of us would do.


It's hip to hate LA, didn't you get the memo?
 
Jonker at it again...... We had to spend 2million because the axis of evil would have kidnapped Lance! True!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lance...-tour-down-under/story-e6frea6u-1225942863539

Close friend Patrick Jonker said Armstrong had offers from cashed-up Tour of Qatar officials before deciding*on SA.

"The Tour of Qatar, they have an unlimited budget," Jonker said.

"They're a bunch of billionaire sheiks and they would have offered him a bucketload of money to race the Tour of Qatar - it's just a few days after the Tour Down Under.

"But you look at the Tour of Qatar and the course is boring. It's sandy, it's dangerous. The attraction for Adelaide, it's a comfortable, safe place to race, not many crashes here. Everything about it, Lance enjoyed."
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
You said "it would appear that the LAF has donated money across Australia".

Can you show somewhere that the LAF has actually donated money in Australia.
Also $350 million for cancer RESEARCH - have you not read the Livestong site. Little of there funds goes to research.

Also - I don't remember Tiger Woods saying he was not getting paid or the SA government saying they were donating to a charity, as they did with LA.

Terry Fox Foundation has raised over $500 million.
 
thehog said:
Jonker at it again...... We had to spend 2million because the axis of evil would have kidnapped Lance! True!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lance...-tour-down-under/story-e6frea6u-1225942863539

Close friend Patrick Jonker said Armstrong had offers from cashed-up Tour of Qatar officials before deciding*on SA.

"The Tour of Qatar, they have an unlimited budget," Jonker said.

"They're a bunch of billionaire sheiks and they would have offered him a bucketload of money to race the Tour of Qatar - it's just a few days after the Tour Down Under.

"But you look at the Tour of Qatar and the course is boring. It's sandy, it's dangerous. The attraction for Adelaide, it's a comfortable, safe place to race, not many crashes here. Everything about it, Lance enjoyed."

Tourism Australia managing director Andrew McEvoy, who headed SA Tourism Commission when Armstrong first rode in SA, said the deal to get Armstrong back for a third time was significant.

"In his first year with the Tour Down Under, he doubled its economic value," he said. "South Australia is his favourite place in the country.

LOL

South Australia/Adelaide is a hellhole. Worst place in the country by a country mile.
 
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thehog said:
Jonker at it again...... We had to spend 2million because the axis of evil would have kidnapped Lance! True!

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lance...-tour-down-under/story-e6frea6u-1225942863539

Close friend Patrick Jonker said Armstrong had offers from cashed-up Tour of Qatar officials before deciding*on SA.

"The Tour of Qatar, they have an unlimited budget," Jonker said.

"They're a bunch of billionaire sheiks and they would have offered him a bucketload of money to race the Tour of Qatar - it's just a few days after the Tour Down Under.

"But you look at the Tour of Qatar and the course is boring. It's sandy, it's dangerous. The attraction for Adelaide, it's a comfortable, safe place to race, not many crashes here. Everything about it, Lance enjoyed."

You can't expect anything from Turtur or Jonker other than the same obsequious soundbites. You'd think the man was Hercules himself. Tiger Woods was the same (I think they spent 3 million on him). The cultural cringe in Australia is alive and well. Anyone famous who deigns to visit our shores is seen as some sort of validation of a nation desperate to be loved. It's like the bullied kid at school paying someone to be his friend.

If I were in Armstrong's shoes, I too would take a two week training holiday to Adelaide for $2 million. It would be hypocritical of me to criticise him for it.

If I were the taxpayer, however, I would be furious that I would be subsidising a multimillionaire's pre-season training camp. Especially when that same money could be used to bring a better class of racer to the event. Like others have said - change the parcours a bit and make the prize money $2mil, and you'll have the best in the world there right away.

And would it kill them to put in an ITT?
 
Runitout said:
You can't expect anything from Turtur or Jonker other than the same obsequious soundbites. You'd think the man was Hercules himself. Tiger Woods was the same (I think they spent 3 million on him). The cultural cringe in Australia is alive and well. Anyone famous who deigns to visit our shores is seen as some sort of validation of a nation desperate to be loved. It's like the bullied kid at school paying someone to be his friend.

If I were in Armstrong's shoes, I too would take a two week training holiday to Adelaide for $2 million. It would be hypocritical of me to criticise him for it.

If I were the taxpayer, however, I would be furious that I would be subsidising a multimillionaire's pre-season training camp. Especially when that same money could be used to bring a better class of racer to the event. Like others have said - change the parcours a bit and make the prize money $2mil, and you'll have the best in the world there right away.

And would it kill them to put in an ITT?

First race that early in the season, teams don't want to be shipping time trial bikes all across the globe for just one use.

Prologue on road bikes would be a better idea.

Or the 2mil can be used to fund the teams to carry extra bikes over (TT bikes).
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Of course he will - I am suprised people would be suprised at this.

There are 3 more pulls lefty out of the Cash Cow - TDU, South Africa & TOC.

All he has said so far is he wasn't riding another TdF and had ridden his last race in Europe.
I doubt SA - the other two are pretty obvious but he won't ride after ATOC. Can't recall the date of that SA junket.

He and the other team owners needs him in ATOC to help generate some media for a new / returning sponsor.