There was talk yesterday somewhere of Valverde winning small races and not letting teammates win....well good timing
Valverde gifts Klasika Primavera to Amador.
Valverde gifts Klasika Primavera to Amador.
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he's probably not allowed to win the Spanish NC from Movistar as their star rider.Blanco said:jflemaire said:I don't mind Valverde taking part in these kinds of smaller races per se, but does he have to go for the win? He could ride as a helper for his younger teammates; this would be seen as a generous gesture for riders who ride for him the rest of the season and his presence would still bring some media attention that these races need. As it is, he just looks selfish.Kazistuta said:Even though Cannibalverde clearly is the big fish in these races, I think it's important for the organizers to have guys like him turn up and light it up. There's been plenty of economic polemics surrounding the Spanish cycling scene, so if a race keeps its funding due to him showing up, kudos on that. But the racing would be more competitive without him.
Valverde gifted numerous races to his teammates throughout his career, you obviously didn't follow him closely.He gave Spanish Championships to Herrada, Izagirre and Rojas, Klasika Primavera to Visconti. He rode many times in service of his teammates. Heck he even gifted wins to non-teammates, like Szmyd at Mont Ventoux and Luisle (arguably) in Murcia this year. Valverde is one of the most generous riders in terms of riding for teammates in the whole peloton, so I lost you a little bit at this one
As for this particular race (GP Indurain), he would be more than happy if Betancur could've hold on for the win, or if Soler could've broke through on that penultimate climb when Betancur was caught. But the truth was that Verona was stronger than both, so only he could've beat him, as he did.
He did in Cáceres in 2015, then it was him, Barbero (with Caja Rural) and Jesús Herrada with a small gap. He'd gifted it to Herrada in 2013 but Barbero's a better sprinter than Jesús and they hadn't been able to get rid of him so Valverde sprinted for the win. He was also with Abarcá when he won it in 2008 in the two-up sprint with Niño Sevilla. I think it's important for the team to have the jersey, but it's not so important to Bala to have it so he will pass it around where he can, and take it for the team's brand exposure requirements if the team would otherwise lose the jersey.El Pistolero said:he's probably not allowed to win the Spanish NC from Movistar as their star rider.Blanco said:jflemaire said:I don't mind Valverde taking part in these kinds of smaller races per se, but does he have to go for the win? He could ride as a helper for his younger teammates; this would be seen as a generous gesture for riders who ride for him the rest of the season and his presence would still bring some media attention that these races need. As it is, he just looks selfish.Kazistuta said:Even though Cannibalverde clearly is the big fish in these races, I think it's important for the organizers to have guys like him turn up and light it up. There's been plenty of economic polemics surrounding the Spanish cycling scene, so if a race keeps its funding due to him showing up, kudos on that. But the racing would be more competitive without him.
Valverde gifted numerous races to his teammates throughout his career, you obviously didn't follow him closely.He gave Spanish Championships to Herrada, Izagirre and Rojas, Klasika Primavera to Visconti. He rode many times in service of his teammates. Heck he even gifted wins to non-teammates, like Szmyd at Mont Ventoux and Luisle (arguably) in Murcia this year. Valverde is one of the most generous riders in terms of riding for teammates in the whole peloton, so I lost you a little bit at this one
As for this particular race (GP Indurain), he would be more than happy if Betancur could've hold on for the win, or if Soler could've broke through on that penultimate climb when Betancur was caught. But the truth was that Verona was stronger than both, so only he could've beat him, as he did.
Movistar doesn't care about the jersey, whoever "wear" it.El Pistolero said:he's probably not allowed to win the Spanish NC from Movistar as their star rider.Blanco said:jflemaire said:I don't mind Valverde taking part in these kinds of smaller races per se, but does he have to go for the win? He could ride as a helper for his younger teammates; this would be seen as a generous gesture for riders who ride for him the rest of the season and his presence would still bring some media attention that these races need. As it is, he just looks selfish.Kazistuta said:Even though Cannibalverde clearly is the big fish in these races, I think it's important for the organizers to have guys like him turn up and light it up. There's been plenty of economic polemics surrounding the Spanish cycling scene, so if a race keeps its funding due to him showing up, kudos on that. But the racing would be more competitive without him.
Valverde gifted numerous races to his teammates throughout his career, you obviously didn't follow him closely.He gave Spanish Championships to Herrada, Izagirre and Rojas, Klasika Primavera to Visconti. He rode many times in service of his teammates. Heck he even gifted wins to non-teammates, like Szmyd at Mont Ventoux and Luisle (arguably) in Murcia this year. Valverde is one of the most generous riders in terms of riding for teammates in the whole peloton, so I lost you a little bit at this one
As for this particular race (GP Indurain), he would be more than happy if Betancur could've hold on for the win, or if Soler could've broke through on that penultimate climb when Betancur was caught. But the truth was that Verona was stronger than both, so only he could've beat him, as he did.
El Pistolero said:he's probably not allowed to win the Spanish NC from Movistar as their star rider.Blanco said:jflemaire said:I don't mind Valverde taking part in these kinds of smaller races per se, but does he have to go for the win? He could ride as a helper for his younger teammates; this would be seen as a generous gesture for riders who ride for him the rest of the season and his presence would still bring some media attention that these races need. As it is, he just looks selfish.Kazistuta said:Even though Cannibalverde clearly is the big fish in these races, I think it's important for the organizers to have guys like him turn up and light it up. There's been plenty of economic polemics surrounding the Spanish cycling scene, so if a race keeps its funding due to him showing up, kudos on that. But the racing would be more competitive without him.
Valverde gifted numerous races to his teammates throughout his career, you obviously didn't follow him closely.He gave Spanish Championships to Herrada, Izagirre and Rojas, Klasika Primavera to Visconti. He rode many times in service of his teammates. Heck he even gifted wins to non-teammates, like Szmyd at Mont Ventoux and Luisle (arguably) in Murcia this year. Valverde is one of the most generous riders in terms of riding for teammates in the whole peloton, so I lost you a little bit at this one
As for this particular race (GP Indurain), he would be more than happy if Betancur could've hold on for the win, or if Soler could've broke through on that penultimate climb when Betancur was caught. But the truth was that Verona was stronger than both, so only he could've beat him, as he did.
Just look at how awful their minimalistic designs are. Teams like Movistar and Astana are pure cancer.Blanco said:El Pistolero said:he's probably not allowed to win the Spanish NC from Movistar as their star rider.Blanco said:jflemaire said:I don't mind Valverde taking part in these kinds of smaller races per se, but does he have to go for the win? He could ride as a helper for his younger teammates; this would be seen as a generous gesture for riders who ride for him the rest of the season and his presence would still bring some media attention that these races need. As it is, he just looks selfish.Kazistuta said:Even though Cannibalverde clearly is the big fish in these races, I think it's important for the organizers to have guys like him turn up and light it up. There's been plenty of economic polemics surrounding the Spanish cycling scene, so if a race keeps its funding due to him showing up, kudos on that. But the racing would be more competitive without him.
Valverde gifted numerous races to his teammates throughout his career, you obviously didn't follow him closely.He gave Spanish Championships to Herrada, Izagirre and Rojas, Klasika Primavera to Visconti. He rode many times in service of his teammates. Heck he even gifted wins to non-teammates, like Szmyd at Mont Ventoux and Luisle (arguably) in Murcia this year. Valverde is one of the most generous riders in terms of riding for teammates in the whole peloton, so I lost you a little bit at this one
As for this particular race (GP Indurain), he would be more than happy if Betancur could've hold on for the win, or if Soler could've broke through on that penultimate climb when Betancur was caught. But the truth was that Verona was stronger than both, so only he could've beat him, as he did.
Brilliant stuff. Again
Tokyo, watch out for the rower!Scarponi said:Rider Name (Country) Team Result
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2 Harry Tanfield (England) 0:00:30
3 Hamish Bond (New Zealand) 0:00:32
4 Callum Scotson (Australia) 0:01:22
5 James Oram (New Zealand) 0:01:27
6 James McLaughlin (Guernsey) 0:01:41
7 Marcus Christie (Northern Ireland) 0:02:29
8 Charlie Tanfield (England)
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my badAlexandre B. said:Today is Tour du Finistère, Tro Bro Léon is tomorrow.
I didn't even know that it was the Norwegian national jersey before I read your post.Libertine Seguros said:Seriously, even Joker-Icopal can't do a good Norwegian champion's jersey nowadays?! It used to be a jersey that was impossible to get WRONG.