National Championship Discussion/Results

[burning]

I wonder what is his average speed?

 

[Bushman]

Whatever happened to whatshisname, last year's Danish champion TT?

He won the u23, not sure he competed in the elite race. But anyway, the course didnt suit him very well.

 

[cocteau_ireland]

Irish tt won by Michael hutchinson, martyn Irvine 2nd (c'mon the olympics!) n roche 3rd

 

[Northern rider]

Are you kidding? There weren't even some amateurs who fancied a ride?

Frank S will be kicking himself, that's his best chance for a TT champs jersey gone for a burton. Mind you, he probably would have needed this guy to puncture or ride into a stray cow or something.

 

[Pentacycle]

ITT Luxembourg
Elite:

1. Ben Gastauer (ALM)

U23:

1. Bob Jungels (LET)

Gastauer had just to finish the race as he was the only start in his category. Jungels was well ahead of him at the finish.

On cq Jungels also won the elite championship: http://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=22909
Just a question, was it a hard course, or did Jungels have a bad day? He rode below 46 km/h so that's not very fast, considering him being a super TT talent.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Of course it was just one race with all the different categories in it. However no other Elite pro rider older than 23 apart from Gastauer showed up today.

And you have to be pro to win the national championship? What a bizzare rule for such a small little non-entity of a place.

 

[williamp78]

Irish tt won by Michael hutchinson, martyn Irvine 2nd (c'mon the olympics!) n roche 3rd

Michael Hutchinson is hilarious at times! (you should follow him on twitter) He enters the British TT Champs as well!

 

[maltiv]

Nordhaug actually dropped his chain during today's ride, so if not for that particular accident he probably would've beaten Edvald as well. Quite fascinating, considering that 2 years ago Nordhaug would probably have been beaten by 6 minutes or so.

Neither of them will win the road race since Nordhaug has said that he won't be riding for Edvald, which basically means that a random early breakaway will win, since none of the pros have teammates.

 

[williamp78]

EBH has stated earlier in the season that his main season goal is the Olympic RR and before the Dauphine TT he mentioned that he hasn't done ANY TT specific training so presumably that may explain some of his loss of TT form.

I expect EBH to put in a great Hincapie/Voigt performance at the TdF this year

 

[Trofinios]

Here's the top 10 from the Norwegian championship:

1. Reidar Borgersen (Joker Merida) 1.01,55
2. Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Sky) +11
3. Lars Petter Nordhaug (Tønsberg CK) +42
4. Lorents Ola Aasvold (Plussbank BMC) +1,55
5. Truls Engen Korsæth (Lillehammer CK) +2,17
6. Andreas Landa (OneCo-Mesterhus Cycling Team) +2,51
7. Bjørn Tore Nilsen Hoem (Plussbank BMC) +2,54
8. Alexander Randin (Ringeriks-Kraft Look)
9. Kjetil Johansen Amundrud (Oslostudentenes IK Sykkel) +3,03
10. Max Emil Kørner (Ringeriks-Kraft Look) +3,06

Compare to last year:

1 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Lillehammer CK/Team Sky) 1.03.06
2 Reidar Borgersen (Modum CK/Joker Merida) +2.01
3 Lorents Ola Aasvold (CK Nor/Plussbank Cervélo) +4.06
4 Vegard Stake Laengen (Asker CK/Joker Merida) +4.12
5 Stian Saugstad (Ringeriks-Kraft) +5.25
6 Geir Inge Berg (Sandnes SK) +5.47
7 Mikael Schou (Ringeriks-Kraft) +6.31
8 Andreas Landa (IF Frøy) +6.32
9 Vegard Breen (Joker Merida) +6.45
10 Max Emil Kørner (IF Frøy) +7.01

As you can see, Borgersen's gap to the other cyclist's has remained the same, so I don't think the explanation is that he did a great ride. The big difference is that Edvald seemingly has become 2 minutes slower (relatively, of course). It seems as if his form has completely vanished since the Dauphine. Or perhaps he was just feeling like crap since he just returned from altitude.

Apparently he has been a bit sick. As usual it is something...

Edvald: - Surt å miste trøyen
Edvald Boasson Hagen var skuffet etter temponederlaget.

- Jeg klarte ikke kjøre noe fortere enn det jeg gjorde i dag. Han (Reidar Borgersen) kjørte utrolig sterkt. Jeg hadde ingen god følelse etter at jeg var litt syk tidligere denne uken, men jeg kan ikke skylde på det akkurat.

- Jeg er absolutt ikke bekymret for Tour de France-formen, forteller Sky-rytteren.

Nederlaget betyr at 25-åringen må ikle seg den sorte Sky-uniformen under tempoetappene - i hvert fall det neste året.

- Det er surt å ikke ha trøya det neste året.

- Svir det?

- Ja, det og at seiersrekken ble brutt, sukker Boasson Hagen.

http://www.procycling.no/article3422285.ece

 

[ruswilks]

Michael Hutchinson is hilarious at times! (you should follow him on twitter) He enters the British TT Champs as well!

Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I'm aware he can't enter the British National Time Trial Championship (which you get the jersey for) now he enters the Irish nationals, but can and does enter the CTT national championships (national 10,25,50 etc...) as they aren't run by British Cycling.

Can't Northern Irish competitors choose whether to compete for GB or Ireland in a lot of sports?

 

[Trofinios]

I expect EBH to put in a great Hincapie/Voigt performance at the TdF this year

I think it's a tradegy that EBH is riding TDF as a domestique. He should be fighting for the green jersey. But hey, he decided to stay with Sky so he has only himself to blame.

 

[Ney the Viking]

Here's the top 10 from the Norwegian championship:

1. Reidar Borgersen (Joker Merida) 1.01,55
2. Edvald Boasson Hagen (Team Sky) +11
3. Lars Petter Nordhaug (Tønsberg CK) +42
4. Lorents Ola Aasvold (Plussbank BMC) +1,55
5. Truls Engen Korsæth (Lillehammer CK) +2,17
6. Andreas Landa (OneCo-Mesterhus Cycling Team) +2,51
7. Bjørn Tore Nilsen Hoem (Plussbank BMC) +2,54
8. Alexander Randin (Ringeriks-Kraft Look)
9. Kjetil Johansen Amundrud (Oslostudentenes IK Sykkel) +3,03
10. Max Emil Kørner (Ringeriks-Kraft Look) +3,06

Compare to last year:

1 Edvald Boasson Hagen (Lillehammer CK/Team Sky) 1.03.06
2 Reidar Borgersen (Modum CK/Joker Merida) +2.01
3 Lorents Ola Aasvold (CK Nor/Plussbank Cervélo) +4.06
4 Vegard Stake Laengen (Asker CK/Joker Merida) +4.12
5 Stian Saugstad (Ringeriks-Kraft) +5.25
6 Geir Inge Berg (Sandnes SK) +5.47
7 Mikael Schou (Ringeriks-Kraft) +6.31
8 Andreas Landa (IF Frøy) +6.32
9 Vegard Breen (Joker Merida) +6.45
10 Max Emil Kørner (IF Frøy) +7.01

As you can see, Borgersen's gap to the other cyclist's has remained the same, so I don't think the explanation is that he did a great ride. The big difference is that Edvald seemingly has become 2 minutes slower (relatively, of course). It seems as if his form has completely vanished since the Dauphine. Or perhaps he was just feeling like crap since he just returned from altitude.

Is the Lars Nordhaug in 3rd THE Nordhaug? If so the Norwegian cyclists really need to up the game if the top3 includes a scater and a skier

 

[williamp78]

Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I'm aware he can't enter the British National Time Trial Championship (which you get the jersey for) now he enters the Irish nationals, but can and does enter the CTT national championships (national 10,25,50 etc...) as they aren't run by British Cycling.

Can't Northern Irish competitors choose whether to compete for GB or Ireland in a lot of sports?

Yes they can (in most sports i suppose) but not normally both but as you point out it may have been a CTT race. I think he won the 25mile a few weeks ago beating Alex Dowsett and definitely participated in the national champs last year but perhaps he wasn't eligible to actually win or wear the national jersey; until i read it on this forum i didn't realise there were two organisations.

He has represented Northern Ireland at the commonwealths as well.

He's a great time trialist; i wonder why he doesn't put himself forward for the olympics? (i've asked him on twitter; lets see if he replies!)

 

[Froome19]

Svein Tuft has won the Canadian TT champs

 

[Jakob747]

Rasmus Quaade who also won silver at the U23 Worlds ITT.

He didn't participate in the national championship. He's currently in Italy preparing for the Olympics.

Together with Lasse Norman Hansen?

 

[maltiv]

Is the Lars Nordhaug in 3rd THE Nordhaug? If so the Norwegian cyclists really need to up the game if the top3 includes a scater and a skier

I assume you're confusing Nordhaug with Northug. Nordhaug has been riding for Sky for 2 years now and has had a great season, with results such as 1st Trofea Deia, 4th Criterium International, 6th Vuelta al Pais Vasco, 3rd Tour of Norway...Might as well note the name already, because he's certainly a better athlete than this overrated Northug guy

 

[Dazed and Confused]

EBH is just one of many riders

who perhaps neglects their own capabilities. Rodriquez was another. Wasting many years in service of Valverde.

 

[DominicDecoco]

Whatever happened to whatshisname, last year's Danish champion TT?

Quaade is preparing for the Olympics instead.

 

[Christian]

And you have to be pro to win the national championship? What a bizzare rule for such a small little non-entity of a place.

There are several types of national championships. Elite with contract, Elite without contract, Masters, U23, Women and Juniors. Jungels won the championship of his category. Nothing bizarre about it.

I don't know how hard the course was but it was pouring down rain so that is probably the explanation for Jungels' slow average. Gastauer's time isn't all that bad, considering he is not at all a specialist. He lost 1 minute on 26 km to an absolute specialist.

It's really too bad no one else participated. Zangerlé had to drop out last minute and Didier is a bit injured. Fränk probably didn't want to get beaten by a U23 rider and Drucker fancies he has good chances to win the RR so he didn't want to take any chances. Anyways it's not Gastauer's fault that no one bothered to show up, good for him that he now gets to wear the jersey all year

 

[will10]

Last year Hutch switched his nationality to Ireland in preparation for a potential Olympic TT slot (unfortunately the selection was made before he won the Irish Nats). He rode both Irish (where he finished 3rd and was eligible for his bronze medal), and British Nationals (where he was also 3rd but no medal as ineligible so his bronze went to Bottrill).

 

[El Pistolero]

Last year Hutch switched his nationality to Ireland in preparation for a potential Olympic TT slot (unfortunately the selection was made before he won the Irish Nats). He rode both Irish (where he finished 3rd and was eligible for his bronze medal), and British Nationals (where he was also 3rd but no medal as ineligible so his bronze went to Bottrill).

Apparently the Irish time trial results are completely wrong.
http://twitter.com/opqscyclingteam

 

[williamp78]

Last year Hutch switched his nationality to Ireland in preparation for a potential Olympic TT slot (unfortunately the selection was made before he won the Irish Nats). He rode both Irish (where he finished 3rd and was eligible for his bronze medal), and British Nationals (where he was also 3rd but no medal as ineligible so his bronze went to Bottrill).

I have to say I don't mind northern irish people representing ireland but i'm not a big fan of people changing to suit themselves though as far as i can tell hutch would be irelands best Time Trialer.

And i'm kind of relieved that i didn't imagine him competing at the British TT last year!

 

[williamp78]

Oh and he's a link to the irish cycling site about todays TT

The times don't seem to match up quite right with the photos as el pistolero has mentioned but it seems a similar situation to Luxembourg. Brammier came 9th but four of the guys who beat him were U23 so he actually came fiith in the elite competition. (EDIT: They had timing issues; the photo below lists the uncorrected times with brammier coming 5th once the necessary adjustments were made)

http://www.irishcycling.com/publish/news/art_6405.shtml

https://twitter.com/irishcycling/status/215890271169294336/photo/1/large

 

[will10]

The course was also shortened to ~35km, just in case anyone is wondering about Hutch's 33mph average