Teams & Riders Official Wout Van Aert thread

[velaso montador]

Wva is a bigger talent than Vingo. I just said it.

This is true for me too. Make no mistakes about it, Wva is no where near Vdp level in pure power or strenght, flats or whatever in my opinion in classics, Vdp is simply on another level thats pretty clear for me over the years but Wva is for me aswell a bigger talent than Vinge.

Wva in a team in a GT wheres the stages are not that hard as classics/monuments in a team he can hunt stages whenever he wants the entire grand tour would be a beatiful thing to watch and would play right into his talent. Jack of all trades at a insane high level!

 

[Hugh Januss]

Wva is a bigger talent than Vingo. I just said it. Yet, managment plugges Wout into a wattage plan last year for a lesser talent to win the overall of the biggest race on the calendar

This is apples and oranges. Wout has the same chance of ever winning the TDF as Vingo does of winning a cobbled classic or cyclocross WC.
Though to be fair Wout has a better chance of winning TDF than Van der Poel.

 

[Berniece]

With all this talk about the worlds and olympics how will Belgium play it with Remco and Jasper Philipsen presumably wanting protected status,

2 options. Being 4 leaders and everyone rides for themselves, or bring Benoot and Lampaert

 

[scribers]

This is apples and oranges. Wout has the same chance of ever winning the TDF as Vingo does of winning a cobbled classic or cyclocross WC.
Though to be fair Wout has a better chance of winning TDF than Van der Poel.

For sure, but that wasn't the point I was making. Wout was used as a watt machine to get Vingo a win. What did wout come away with and what has he accomplished the last 2 years + this year? Not near what we should expect from him. He dictates every race he is in and is always a factor.

 

[scribers]

This is true for me too. Make no mistakes about it, Wva is no where near Vdp level in pure power or strenght, flats or whatever in my opinion in classics, Vdp is simply on another level thats pretty clear for me over the years but Wva is for me aswell a bigger talent than Vinge.

Wva in a team in a GT wheres the stages are not that hard as classics/monuments in a team he can hunt stages whenever he wants the entire grand tour would be a beatiful thing to watch and would play right into his talent. Jack of all trades at a insane high level!

Right! Even him stage hunting on all terrains and contesting for the green jersey was fabulous to watch.

 

[Blanco]

Wva is a bigger talent than Vingo. I just said it. Yet, managment plugges Wout into a wattage plan last year for a lesser talent to win the overall of the biggest race on the calendar

Nope.

 

[scribers]

BIGGER

 

[Red Rick]

Van Aert fills both criteria of being a talent and being bigger than Vingegaard. Most men fulfill the 2nd one.

 

[Hugh Januss]

For sure, but that wasn't the point I was making. Wout was used as a watt machine to get Vingo a win. What did wout come away with and what has he accomplished the last 2 years + this year? Not near what we should expect from him. He dictates every race he is in and is always a factor.

I was responding to your statement "WVA is a bigger talent than Vingo" and not the other sillyness in your post. Professional athletes are paid to do what the team needs them to do. Stef Curry does not post up in front of the basket and wait for the alleyoop pass.

 

[Gratemans]

For sure, but that wasn't the point I was making. Wout was used as a watt machine to get Vingo a win. What did wout come away with and what has he accomplished the last 2 years + this year? Not near what we should expect from him. He dictates every race he is in and is always a factor.

How about he won three stages, came second six times (one of which the St Gervais Mt Blanc stage), and took a green jersey? Not too shabby in my book..

 

[proffate]

Wout minus 10kg and retaining same watts would be a disgusting cyclist

yes, body dysmorphia is disgusting

 

[scribers]

That should be every

How about he won three stages, came second six times (one of which the St Gervais Mt Blanc stage), and took a green jersey? Not too shabby in my book..

Your facts are devastating to my position

 

[Gratemans]

Your facts are devastating to my position

Well thank you. The point I'm making is: Van Aert gets judged waaay to much on what he might be able to achieve if he wasn't just held back by the evil powers that be, who forced him to support GC riders in the Tour.

Some people get so worked up about that fact, that they kind of seem to ignore, or just aren't able to see anymore, what he actually has accomplashed, while comfortably bringing his teammate multiple TDF victories.

(I'm not really a Van Aert fan either btw. I just think people expect things from him he's not capable of, and ignore the huge accomplishments he did deliver. I'm also convinced he will one day win PR. Mind you: he'll then have won Ventoux, Champs d'Elysee and PR. Just ponder that for a second.)

 

[Oldermanish]

This is true for me too. Make no mistakes about it, Wva is no where near Vdp level in pure power or strenght, flats or whatever in my opinion in classics, Vdp is simply on another level thats pretty clear for me over the years but Wva is for me aswell a bigger talent than Vinge.

Wva in a team in a GT wheres the stages are not that hard as classics/monuments in a team he can hunt stages whenever he wants the entire grand tour would be a beatiful thing to watch and would play right into his talent. Jack of all trades at a insane high level!

He's also paid the be that Jack of All Trades to get his team GT wins. MvP cannot do that and is still a great team talent for fast leadouts. Very similar team responsibilities that they deliver on repeatedly but different chessboards. Have a mini-GT with alternating cyclocross and alpine stages to see those differences.

 

[scribers]

I don’t think wva talks about it. But I’d bet anything he doesn’t want his legacy to be a GT watt machine for Vingo. We know what he can do otherwise and it’s far more spectacular.

Did we ever consider the team realizing this didn’t want him at the tour this year in original plans?

 

[Didinho]

He’s been seen on Zwift rides a couple days now. New step in his recovery.
He deleted everything afterwards.

Did an hour at 220W this morning, heart rate 116 average. Compared to an earlier (same) zwift ride he had almost the same heart rate as before.

 

[dazaau]

He’s been seen on Zwift rides a couple days now. New step in his recovery.
He deleted everything afterwards.

Did an hour at 220W this morning, heart rate 116 average. Compared to an earlier (same) zwift ride he had almost the same heart rate as before.

Wva doing 220w at what is some people's resting heart rate.

 

[velaso montador]

He’s been seen on Zwift rides a couple days now. New step in his recovery.
He deleted everything afterwards.

Did an hour at 220W this morning, heart rate 116 average. Compared to an earlier (same) zwift ride he had almost the same heart rate as before.

glad to see hes back on the bike.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

He rides an XC bike with aero road wheels wtf

 

[Valv.Piti]

Wout is gonna go full destruction mode in July. Such uplifting news!!

Cant wait

 

[Didinho]

And immediately deleted his ride again.

 

[jono]

And immediately deleted his ride again.

What kind of power does one have to do to finish Ven-Top in 92 minutes at 80kg or whatever he is?

 

[Red Rick]

What kind of power does one have to do to finish Ven-Top in 92 minutes at 80kg or whatever he is?

Should be under 4W/kg

 

[Valv.Piti]

But if youre doing it at 112 heartrate, you cannot be going too badly.

 

[Netserk]

He should ride the Giro.