Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Porte usually better at the start of the race than in the third week? Or is it just because he never makes it to the third week? Any evidence on this?
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Hugo Koblet said:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Porte usually better at the start of the race than in the third week? Or is it just because he never makes it to the third week? Any evidence on this?
yaco said:Main thing is he survived stage nine - Form is not as good as in the past but can do a 7th to 10th on GC.
Cookster15 said:yaco said:Main thing is he survived stage nine - Form is not as good as in the past but can do a 7th to 10th on GC.
You don’t think stage 6 form was good? Was good enough to finish same time as Bernal. He came to the Tour underdone. Let’s see him in ITT first.
movingtarget said:In a few days the questions about Porte and Quintana will be answered.
gregrowlerson said:movingtarget said:In a few days the questions about Porte and Quintana will be answered.
Still five days away imo. Very boring period of the Tour. I don't expect much to happen on Thursday, and then on Friday I expect few surprises (though obviously time differences; Porte to lose around 40 seconds to Thomas and Quintana around 80 seconds). We probably won't have a clear answer until Saturday. Me, as an Australian I would love to see Porte flying away on the Tourmalet like he has on MTF's in one week races in the past. Unlikely, but if not, then I'd take him staying with the heads of state, and maybe gaping them a little in the last couple of kms, setting him up for the final week.
Dekker_Tifosi said:Porte survived the first 9 days, that in itself is already a miracle.
movingtarget said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Porte survived the first 9 days, that in itself is already a miracle.
Then drops over a minute and a half but there were plenty of GC disasters to join him. Ineos make the most of their opportunities and have finished off a few GC riders in the process. What must Pinot be thinking ? Good result for Quintana, SK and Yates as well.
yaco said:movingtarget said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Porte survived the first 9 days, that in itself is already a miracle.
Then drops over a minute and a half but there were plenty of GC disasters to join him. Ineos make the most of their opportunities and have finished off a few GC riders in the process. What must Pinot be thinking ? Good result for Quintana, SK and Yates as well.
Don't think Porte has been helped much by his team - Ciccone who was coming off the Giro and maybe could help in the back half of the race, went out in a break and got yellow which meant extra work for the team - They put Stuyven who was the key rider for crosswinds in the stage yesterday when there was a chance of crosswinds today - In saying that Porte may not be a STRONG leader and is awful in cross winds.
Cookster15 said:yaco said:movingtarget said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Porte survived the first 9 days, that in itself is already a miracle.
Then drops over a minute and a half but there were plenty of GC disasters to join him. Ineos make the most of their opportunities and have finished off a few GC riders in the process. What must Pinot be thinking ? Good result for Quintana, SK and Yates as well.
Don't think Porte has been helped much by his team - Ciccone who was coming off the Giro and maybe could help in the back half of the race, went out in a break and got yellow which meant extra work for the team - They put Stuyven who was the key rider for crosswinds in the stage yesterday when there was a chance of crosswinds today - In saying that Porte may not be a STRONG leader and is awful in cross winds.
I am sure he isn’t a strong leader. But Trek must share some blame. Where was the team when needed? Ciccone Should be p’d off as well.
yaco said:movingtarget said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Porte survived the first 9 days, that in itself is already a miracle.
Then drops over a minute and a half but there were plenty of GC disasters to join him. Ineos make the most of their opportunities and have finished off a few GC riders in the process. What must Pinot be thinking ? Good result for Quintana, SK and Yates as well.
Don't think Porte has been helped much by his team - Ciccone who was coming off the Giro and maybe could help in the back half of the race, went out in a break and got yellow which meant extra work for the team - They put Stuyven who was the key rider for crosswinds in the stage yesterday when there was a chance of crosswinds today - In saying that Porte may not be a STRONG leader and is awful in cross winds.
The Hegelian said:yaco said:movingtarget said:Dekker_Tifosi said:Porte survived the first 9 days, that in itself is already a miracle.
Then drops over a minute and a half but there were plenty of GC disasters to join him. Ineos make the most of their opportunities and have finished off a few GC riders in the process. What must Pinot be thinking ? Good result for Quintana, SK and Yates as well.
Don't think Porte has been helped much by his team - Ciccone who was coming off the Giro and maybe could help in the back half of the race, went out in a break and got yellow which meant extra work for the team - They put Stuyven who was the key rider for crosswinds in the stage yesterday when there was a chance of crosswinds today - In saying that Porte may not be a STRONG leader and is awful in cross winds.
Porte has the racing nous of a blind deer, but if Trek were serious about winning or getting a podium, Stuyven would not be doing bunch sprints for top 10's and then killing himself in day long breaks. He should be riding like Kwia for Ineos.
yaco said:Porte didn't have such high hopes for the TDF - At least he can ride with more freedom and possibly get a first GT stage win - And possibly have a crack at the Vuelta.
I hope it doesn't affect me tomorrow - we'll see
Cookster15 said:Porte comment after his little crash today..
I hope it doesn't affect me tomorrow - we'll see
Here we go again.
movingtarget said:Cookster15 said:Porte comment after his little crash today..
I hope it doesn't affect me tomorrow - we'll see
Here we go again.
Luckily it was a low speed crash. If he was concussed they wouldn't let him start the following stage. So it could have been race over again. Quintana also fell but he seems fine.
Cookster15 said:movingtarget said:Cookster15 said:Porte comment after his little crash today..
I hope it doesn't affect me tomorrow - we'll see
Here we go again.
Luckily it was a low speed crash. If he was concussed they wouldn't let him start the following stage. So it could have been race over again. Quintana also fell but he seems fine.
It wasn't the crash but his comment. Negative. The words of someone who gives up too easily. Even if he did have doubts you would think he would keep it too himself until his legs decide on the road.