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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Quite easily, cause he was the strongest rider there...
OK, the guy who struggles to put time to enric mas and ajuso with his attacks was stronger than the guy who out 40s on everybody in tourmalet and 1 minute on everybody in Bejes. Lol.

The hierarchy in GT racing at the moment is very clearly Vingegard > Pogacar > Roglic > the rest ( Yates, Yates, Kuss, remco, ajuso etc). It has been like this for 18 months. Maybe it will change in 2024.
 
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OK, the guy who struggles to put time to enric mas and ajuso with his attacks was stronger than the guy who out 40s on everybody in tourmalet and 1 minute on everybody in Bejes. Lol.

The hierarchy in GT racing at the moment is very clearly Vingegard > Pogacar > Roglic > the rest ( Yates, Yates, Kuss, remco, ajuso etc). It has been like this for 18 months. Maybe it will change in 2024.
He didn't struggle to put time on them on Javalambre and Angliru, did he?
Seriously, you know cycling too much, to post such silly claims. You know damn well that Vingegaard gain time on Roglic mostly on tactical decisions by the team.
I'm aware that you don't like Roglic very much, but that doesn't mean you can't see things objectively. And objectively, Roglic was at least as strong as Vingegaard in this Vuelta.

About the hierarchy in GT racing, I generally agree.
 
OK, the guy who struggles to put time to enric mas and ajuso with his attacks was stronger than the guy who out 40s on everybody in tourmalet and 1 minute on everybody in Bejes. Lol.

The hierarchy in GT racing at the moment is very clearly Vingegard > Pogacar > Roglic > the rest ( Yates, Yates, Kuss, remco, ajuso etc). It has been like this for 18 months. Maybe it will change in 2024.

Yes, everybody did their utmost to limit their losses on Bejes. Lol.
 
Contador, however, won his first Giro in 2008, because his team was excluded from the Tour and then went in 2014 thinking a sanction could have prevented his presence at the French race. In 2015 it was a gamble against the Tour, by then dominated by Sky. The point is had Contador not had such issues, he likely would have gambled everything on increasing his Tour wins.
I might be misremembering, but it seems like there was a lot of pressure from his ridiculous sponsor, Olev Tinkoff, to try to win all 3 GTs in a year or maybe in a row after winning the 2014 Vuelta?

After beating Froome in that Vuelta and putting up prime numbers all year, in retrospect he absolutely should have targeted the Tour. Instead, he won that Giro 2023 Roglic style, battered and bruised and showing signs of weakness, in no way in optimal shape for the Tour. It’s actually kind of amazing he got fifth, especially the way that race played out.
 
I might be misremembering, but it seems like there was a lot of pressure from his ridiculous sponsor, Olev Tinkoff, to try to win all 3 GTs in a year or maybe in a row after winning the 2014 Vuelta?

After beating Froome in that Vuelta and putting up prime numbers all year, in retrospect he absolutely should have targeted the Tour. Instead, he won that Giro 2023 Roglic style, battered and bruised and showing signs of weakness, in no way in optimal shape for the Tour. It’s actually kind of amazing he got fifth, especially the way that race played out.
The pressure to win 3 GTs came before, with Riis at Saxo Bank
 
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2023 start in Spain, 2024 start in Portugal (according to the rumours) -
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...in-portugal-at-the-figueira-champions-classic
Although he may not have secured himself his main goal of a third Tour de France title in 2023, Tadej Pogacar had a very impressive season regardless. In 2024, there are rumours of a change in goals and reportedly the UAE Team Emirates leader will begin his campaign in Portugal.

According to the Portuguese outlet, A Bola, "a source close to UAE Team Emirates," has told them that the current Slovenian National Champion will begin his 2024 season at the Figueira Champions Classic (10th of February) and the Volta ao Algarve(from 14 to 18 February).
Don't book those hotel rooms yet!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...gacar-not-yet-decided-says-uaes-joxean-matxin
"This week it was reported that Tadej Pogacar will start the 2024 season in Portugal with the Figueira Champions Classic and the Volta ao Algarve. While this may still happen, Joxean Matxin dismisses the idea that it is set in stone.
In words given to Ciclismo Mundial, UAE Team Emirates manager Joxean Matxin stated that a decision hasn't yet been made on where the supertalent will start his next year when it comes to racing."
Source -
https://www.ciclismomundialblog.com...igueira-e-no-algarve-ainda-nao-esta-decidido/
 
Don't book those hotel rooms yet!
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...gacar-not-yet-decided-says-uaes-joxean-matxin
"This week it was reported that Tadej Pogacar will start the 2024 season in Portugal with the Figueira Champions Classic and the Volta ao Algarve. While this may still happen, Joxean Matxin dismisses the idea that it is set in stone.
In words given to Ciclismo Mundial, UAE Team Emirates manager Joxean Matxin stated that a decision hasn't yet been made on where the supertalent will start his next year when it comes to racing."
Source -
https://www.ciclismomundialblog.com...igueira-e-no-algarve-ainda-nao-esta-decidido/
Just please no UAE Tour.

Or, I mean, unless it is specifically good for preparation.
 
Pogacar discusses his season and plans, some interesting quotes:

“For sure the main goal in 2024 will be the Tour de France,”
"I don’t eat people… I don’t think I’m a cannibal like Merckx,” (slight dig at Eddy :p)
"There’s only one thing I’d change: my crash at Liege-Bastogne-Liege. Without my fractured wrist, my season would have been perfect"
"I think that in the best-case scenario, I could have gone 40 seconds faster, but not more." (his TdF ITT analysis, confirming that Skeletor was ridiculously strong on that day)

 

And when he rides, people want to get off

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Same way it worked that Pogacar and WVA were conspiring against MVDP during the spring classics. Philipsen’s allegiances should be with MVDP now.


But if you missed the origination of these posts, you’ll miss the meaning of mine.
I do feel like I'm missing some context here. And I thought WVA and Pog were over after Pog made fun of him with Yates during tdf.
 
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