Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[velaso montador]

Guess what, that usually makes you a better rider!

It most certaintly does!

 

[Peyroteo94]

Will he show up in FW? He will be a massive favourite there.

 

[scribers]

fw is something of a hard race plus sprint for climbers. That sucker just eats energy he might need in the giro

 

[hayneplane]

Will he show up in FW? He will be a massive favourite there.

Doubtful. FW looks wide open this year, it is not a race that suits him that well as he got the win last year when on great form but did not dominate the Mur de Huy. Having got it on his palmares I think he will frequently skip it.

 

[velaso montador]

Fw seems like the least classic race of interest. Rather him save energy and train properly with a good base for Giro/tour than to disrupt that for FW. Liege, Giro and Tour - FW just dont seem worth it, i like the call atleast.

I have no idea how hard it is tho since 99% of the race is a light training ride for him. Its more the part leaving and disrupting a well planned training course for it which seems risky and not worth for me.

 

[Extinction]

So Pog to win Liege, Giro and Tour, who is the last to do so? In one season? Merckx?

 

[hayneplane]

So Pog to win Liege, Giro and Tour, who is the last to do so? In one season? Merckx?

The only one ever. Only Merckx and Coppi have ever won the Giro-Tour double and any monument in the same season.

Merckx 1972 season will never be eclipsed. Giro-Tour double and 3 monuments is just insane no matter what era.

 

[Gratemans]

New trainer!

Really? Hadn't heard anything about that at all

 

[velaso montador]

So Pog to win Liege, Giro and Tour,

He is the great one afterall

 

[YavorD]

The only one ever. Only Merckx and Coppi have ever won the Giro-Tour double and any monument in the same season.

Merckx 1972 season will never be eclipsed. Giro-Tour double and 3 monuments is just insane no matter what era.

Not that I really believe it but if he wins Liege+ Giro+Tour+WC+Lombardia, it would be pretty close.

 

[velaso montador]

Not that I really believe it but if he wins Liege+ Giro+Tour+WC+Lombardia, it would be pretty close.

no disrespect to Merckx ofc but doing that in 2024 has to be 10x harder with the specializing which is in cycling now its almost different sports from different fields of expertise. That plus also cycling is 10x bigger so the competition level has to be harder.

If he was to do that for me atleast that would be way higher.

 

[proffate]

Not that I really believe it but if he wins Liege+ Giro+Tour+WC+Lombardia, it would be pretty close.

The Olympics is also on his calendar last I checked

 

[Nick2413]

Doubtful. FW looks wide open this year, it is not a race that suits him that well as he got the win last year when on great form but did not dominate the Mur de Huy. Having got it on his palmares I think he will frequently skip it.

FW may be wide open but still bet it gets won with a 50k solo the way this year is going.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Doubtful. FW looks wide open this year, it is not a race that suits him that well as he got the win last year when on great form but did not dominate the Mur de Huy. Having got it on his palmares I think he will frequently skip it.

He didn't dominate? He was bossing the climb waiting for someone to attack to just counter attack. It was a very easy win, however is not a race that suits his main strenghts.

 

[hayneplane]

Not that I really believe it but if he wins Liege+ Giro+Tour+WC+Lombardia, it would be pretty close.

If he did that then there would be zero doubt that it would be the best season ever.

 

[Red Rick]

He didn't dominate? He was bossing the climb waiting for someone to attack to just counter attack. It was a very easy win, however is not a race that suits his main strenghts.

The standard way to win is hardly called dominating. In fact the gap to those behind was much smaller than in most editions of Fleche.

 

[hayneplane]

He didn't dominate? He was bossing the climb waiting for someone to attack to just counter attack. It was a very easy win, however is not a race that suits his main strenghts.

Having just rewatched the highlights I would concede you were right and it was a lot more dominant than I had remembered it being.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The standard way to win is hardly called dominating. In fact the gap to those behind was much smaller than in most editions of Fleche.

But he dominate. It was an easy win, a lot like Valverde in his prime.

 

[Red Rick]

But he dominate. It was an easy win, a lot like Valverde in his prime.

It's a lot of made up facts. It's Pog, so it was easy.

Nevermind the barely existent time gaps or the body language.

 

[Salvarani]

It's a lot of made up facts. It's Pog, so it was easy.

Nevermind the barely existent time gaps or the body language.

The definition of finding ways to discredit each and every day.

 

[Vudy]

The definition of finding ways to discredit each and every day.

It's impossible to please everyone. If he wins 80k solo it's boring, if he wins with 1 second he barely made it across the line first and wasn't dominating AKA washed. As for FW, at least from my perspective, it seems he did just enough to win.

 

[Red Rick]

It's impossible to please everyone. If he wins 80k solo it's boring, if he wins with 1 second he barely made it across the line first and wasn't dominating AKA washed. As for FW, at least from my perspective, it seems he did just enough to win.

It has nothing to do with entertainment and everything with just blurting buzzwords out when actually metrics state the contrary.

It's not like I never deny that Pogacar is the best rider in the world. But that doesn't mean I'm obliged to be entertained by monotous domination.

At least I get to be entertained by the outrage of his fans when not everyone worships at the same altar they do

 

[Salvarani]

It's impossible to please everyone. If he wins 80k solo it's boring, if he wins with 1 second he barely made it across the line first and wasn't dominating AKA washed. As for FW, at least from my perspective, it seems he did just enough to win.

You hit the nail on the head with this post. Some people are just always gonna complain, I guess. Finding new ways to do it. They switch narrative each time, as you are alluding to.

Agreed on the FW win. He did just enough to win... but some people will find ways to discredit that as well. No matter what they say, he still won. Thats what matters and it is on his palmares. It wont change because what a lazy poster says on a forum, who twists facts, because of their own bias towards a rider.

 

[Blanco]

But he dominate. It was an easy win, a lot like Valverde in his prime.

He would've choked in the dust behind Valverde's back wheel when he sails past him.
Prime Ala and Roglic would beat him comfortably there too...

 

[Red Rick]

He would've choked in the dust behind Valverde's back wheel when he sails past him.
Prime Ala and Roglic would beat him comfortably there too...

Fresh single murito is probably one of Pogacars worst efforts. People always talking about high, long mountain stages but there he's still #2 in the world normally, but slightly off on a single short murito finish a heap of dudes suddenly beat him.

Pogacar is clearly better at shallower uphill sprints than Mur de Huy.