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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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It's likely he will win the Giro and in fine preparatory shape for the Tour battle. There he will be facing at least one of Jonas' former teammates and a young, recovering Belgian with much he'd want to accomplish. If JV cobbles together a threat that will not be less competition, either.
Yes Remco must think he has a chance to win the TdF now. But so too Roglic. As for “JV cobbles together a threat” please do not repeat the nightmare of Vingo’s rise from obscurity in 2021.
 
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Yes Remco must think he has a chance to win the TdF now. But so too Roglic. As for “JV cobbles together a threat” please do not repeat the nightmare of Vingo’s rise from obscurity in 2021.
Sorry to conjure up old dreams for you.
Remco must know he has a chance to get strong enough to contest the Vuelta after winning a stage and maybe a Tour TT. He's seasoned now and has to plan accordingly.
Unless key guys go off the rails; then it's a free for all. He still has to have a team to get him on a step at the Champs. Where's that coming from?
 
You can't underestimate how much heat effects different riders, it can be a huge difference racing in 20C cloudy weather, or 40C scorching heat.
This Giro weather is perfect for cycling, apart from the snow and rain.

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Definitely lower temperatures are better for long, physical efforts due to reducing body overheat and dehydration. In case of marathons, according to some studies, temperatures in range of 7-15°C are optimal. In case of cycling, due to wind chill, this range can be somewhat higher but obviously temperatures in range 25-30°C (or higher) are way beyond optimal. I can relate to there numbers: when doing a long and intense uphill trek in the mountains temperatures of 10°C or so are very good for such efforts (feeling comfortable in t-shirt if there's no strong wind), 20°C is perceived by me as way too hot and sweaty. This sentiment is shared by running persons I know.
 
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But Kuss isn't Pogacar. The point is if a specialist climber and domestique like Sepp Kuss can finish high on GC for all three grand tours and win the Vuelta then why isn't it possible for a rider of Pogacar's caliber to be a big threat for the double? Especially if Vingegaard can't recover peak form by July.

But if I was a betting man I'd put some money on Roglic ;)
Massive difference between finishing high and winning.
 
Wait, you don‘t expect an 80 k solo from the top of the first Grappa???
With a rainjacket on he'll go unnoticed into the early breakaway, podium contenders will probably watch themselves when they'll unravel the trap.
Pog will then take a turn in front on the first slope of Grappa. After 15 elbow gesture with noone showing up to relay him, he'll realize he's alone.
Feeling lonely, he'll crank it up a bit to Z3 in order to prepare a surprise win dinner for his teammates.
What a shock will it be to see that only Majka finished in the timelimit.
Yet, with the cyclamen jersey now his, Pog would sleep well, being able to wear a short of the color of his choice to Rome.
 
But tbf - that might be the only example in the last 70years. Hinault was only up 3 minutes after two weeks in 1981 (and then won by 14 minutes).
I’m a bit late to the discussion, but wanted to point out this one:

 
With a rainjacket on he'll go unnoticed into the early breakaway, podium contenders will probably watch themselves when they'll unravel the trap.
Pog will then take a turn in front on the first slope of Grappa. After 15 elbow gesture with noone showing up to relay him, he'll realize he's alone.
Feeling lonely, he'll crank it up a bit to Z3 in order to prepare a surprise win dinner for his teammates.
What a shock will it be to see that only Majka finished in the timelimit.
Yet, with the cyclamen jersey now his, Pog would sleep well, being able to wear a short of the color of his choice to Rome.
He gets into the breakaway I'm not sure if the other GC teams will even care let alone react lol.
 
He said Monte Grappa is very close to Slovenia so we know what will happen on Saturday. Will he do it during the first climb or will he wait?
Why should he attack on the first ascent?

He somehow "gifted" Passo Brocon win after all, attacking from GC so close to the finish. He could probably grab that stage as well, attacking with 6-5 kms from finish would be enough.

Anyway, Pog wants Monte Grappa so he won't be that merciful on Saturday.
 
Why should he attack on the first ascent?

He somehow "gifted" Passo Brocon win after all, attacking from GC so close to the finish. He could probably grab that stage as well, attacking with 6-5 kms from finish would be enough.

Anyway, Pog wants Monte Grappa so he won't be that merciful on Saturday.

From a secret source I know that Teddy has a bet with G. about if he can lap the field on Grappa. Apparently their wives are at stake.
 
I'm starting to think, seeing how this Giro is developing, that it's not going to be such a bad preparation for the Tour. He is making the efforts when he wants, how he wants and at the intensity he wants, and he has only really fought anyone in the first stage.
Yes, he looks amazingly strong and getting to chose whenever an effort is made is very good for Pog. Obviously the competition isn't the best with Vingo and Roglic and their respective dedicated GC teams missing but still.

It would be nice if Visma at least can rock UAE at the Tour. This complete dominance isn't just overwhelming. In the longer run it's bad.
 
After thinking a bit about stage 15 to Livigno. It was even more impressive IMO:

1) Last 13-14 minutes of Foscagno were at 6.8-6.9 w/kg - huge numbers at an average altitude of almost 2100 m. Comparable to last year's Tourmalet by Vingo and Pog. But it's not the whole story.

2) After like 3-4 minutes of descent Pog continues pushing 6.7 w/kg for 10 minutes until the finish at almost 2400 m.

This was a really big performance by him, his best at altitude and also maybe his best mountain performance besides Romme+Colombiere (it's hard to compare performances varying greatly in altitude or duration though).
 
After thinking a bit about stage 15 to Livigno. It was even more impressive IMO:

1) Last 13-14 minutes of Foscagno were at 6.8-6.9 w/kg - huge numbers at an average altitude of almost 2100 m. Comparable to last year's Tourmalet by Vingo and Pog. But it's not the whole story.

2) After like 3-4 minutes of descent Pog continues pushing 6.7 w/kg for 10 minutes until the finish at almost 2400 m.

This was a really big performance by him, his best at altitude and also maybe his best mountain performance besides Romme+Colombiere (it's hard to compare performances varying greatly in altitude or duration though).
Of course it was. He had his first date with Urska's boyfriend's girlfriend there ;)