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Monsi

Monsi

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Cycling111 said:
We already saw it at the UAE Tour.
A straighter back.
There wasn't much improvement. The first ITT of the last Tour was really good.
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It’s one ITT though at the very start of a long season. Gotta wait for more samples before saying if there’s improvements or not. We’ll see how Pog performs in the time trials at the Dauphine and Tour where he’s at right around peak shape.
 
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YavorD

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Froome said:
Kuss and Jorgenson will be at a higher level than Yates.
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Yates is (and has always been) capable of amazing climbing performances.
Overall Jorgenson may be on a higher overall level than Yates, but Yates is certainly capable of producing climbing performances that destroy the whole peloton (including Jorgenson and Almeida, whom as we know, doesn't like to go in the red) once or twice in the Tour.
 
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Froome

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YavorD said:
Yates is (and has always been) capable of amazing climbing performances.
Overall Jorgenson may be on a higher overall level than Yates, but Yates is certainly capable of producing climbing performances that destroy the whole peloton (including Jorgenson and Almeida, whom as we know, doesn't like to go in the red) once or twice in the Tour.
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That's why i think is good news the perfomance Yates did, but also what WVA did.

Yates will be the fourth guy from Visma in the Tour, and the plan will probably be to destroy the peloton very soon in the mountain stages.

New things can be done, like in the stage of Superbagneres where we have the combo tourmalet-aspin-peyresourde-superbagneres, where Visma train can destroy the peloton very soon on Tourmalet, and just let letf in the top a GC group (besides Vingegaard, yates, kuss, Jorgenson), of 15/20 riders at best, where probably Emirates will only have pogacar, almeida and maybe sivakov.
 
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YavorD

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Froome said:
Yates will be the fourth guy from Visma in the Tour, and the plan will probably be to destroy the peloton very soon in the mountain stages.
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My point is, if Yates is capable of insane performances, like the one on Finestre, he will possibly/likely drop Kuss and Jorgenson as well.
So it's not very wise to keep him as a fourth guy.
You can perfectly well use him as a last guy sometimes.


The smartest thing Visma could do is Sky-like change of the main helpers.
 
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there's a new strava file from almeida and it's absolutely impressive, he took the KOM by minutes on El purche (6.4 km at 9.6%), he did a VAM of 1951, for 18min and 24sec. This is probably higher than 7 w/kg. In the same ride (where he did more than 4000 meters of elevation in total) he also took the kom on pico veleta (altough this is difficult to judge because the other times in the top 10 are not from top riders in top races)
 
Krzysztof_O

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rafa92 said:
there's a new strava file from almeida and it's absolutely impressive, he took the KOM by minutes on El purche (6.4 km at 9.6%), he did a VAM of 1951, for 18min and 24sec. This is probably higher than 7 w/kg. In the same ride (where he did more than 4000 meters of elevation in total) he also took the kom on pico veleta (altough this is difficult to judge because the other times in the top 10 are not from top riders in top races)
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Great performance but he did a similar VAM in TdS last year (for ~ 20 minutes). If he did this after a long, exhausting ride then it's more impressive.
 
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Froome said:
That's why i think is good news the perfomance Yates did, but also what WVA did.

Yates will be the fourth guy from Visma in the Tour, and the plan will probably be to destroy the peloton very soon in the mountain stages.

New things can be done, like in the stage of Superbagneres where we have the combo tourmalet-aspin-peyresourde-superbagneres, where Visma train can destroy the peloton very soon on Tourmalet, and just let letf in the top a GC group (besides Vingegaard, yates, kuss, Jorgenson), of 15/20 riders at best, where probably Emirates will only have pogacar, almeida and maybe sivakov.
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I'll be watching on the Col d'Aspin for that stage so would love if things get shredded on the Tourmalet and we get to see a reduced GC group come through.
 
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James M

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It's the same people arguing that Evenepoel could win Liège, Flèche, WC etetc or even finish within 30 seconds in Liège which I said would be extremely shocking due to the difference in numbers, basic stuff.

Same people, different day, same debate based on wishful thinking every race last 14months—like clockwork, before every race. I get it, and there's nothing wrong with that either, hope is good, but at some point, Pogacar's ridiculous strength and numbers since entire -24 and now and the sheer numbers behind what he's doing and does in every race now should sink in to some degree, especially for those watching every race under the sun.

Hes obviously in a different stratosphere. All I ever go by and care about are basic various numbers. That's all that matters. Numbers never lie, emotions always do.
 
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