Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Riek s]

It seems like Pog wants to hit the limit of realism but Ving doesn't give a rats ass anymore. I wonder if Pog can realistically do something that affects him enough in this short time frame. I see mention of blood bags, but i assume those are already in play... Maybe a higher powered motor, If vingegaard is pushing 20W higher than he expected.

 

[Abedfo]

I hope Team UAE come out in Saunier Duval kit tomorrow and go full Ricco.

 

[saganftw]

im predicting pog gaining meaningless 30s today

im doing it in the morning so i can brag about my prediction after the stage

 

[GuntherL1]

I hope Team UAE come out in Saunier Duval kit tomorrow and go full Ricco.

How about a Landis 2006 effort without getting caught?

 

[ppanther92]

im predicting pog gaining meaningless 30s today

I can actually imagine that. But not because he is 30s stronger but Jumbo/Vingegaard managing the media backlash by faking weakness. Its honestly a sensible thing for them to do. Would do the same.

 

[Ripper]

I can actually imagine that. But not because he is 30s stronger but Jumbo/Vingegaard managing the media backlash by faking weakness. Its honestly a sensible thing for them to do. Would do the same.

More like 5-10 second gap then

 

[Blobs]

It seems like Pog wants to hit the limit of realism but Ving doesn't give a rats ass anymore. I wonder if Pog can realistically do something that affects him enough in this short time frame. I see mention of blood bags, but i assume those are already in play... Maybe a higher powered motor, If vingegaard is pushing 20W higher than he expected.

Pog is way past the limit of realism. People are just used to it now. If you showed his palmares from the last few years to someone from 5 years ago, they would say those results are impossible in the modern era.

 

[Riek s]

Pog is way past the limit of realism. People are just used to it now. If you showed his palmares from the last few years to someone from 5 years ago, they would say those results are impossible in the modern era.

Yeah, with realism i wasn't talking about clean possible. I was more pointing to making the difference with the other riders within a certain bound of 'acceptable'

 

[Blobs]

Yeah, with realism i wasn't talking about clean possible. I was more pointing to making the difference with the other riders within a certain bound of 'acceptable'

But I'm not sure it is. Beating specialists at their own game in their super peaks at their season goals, from february to october isn't really 'acceptable' I'd say. It's as crazy as what Vingegaard is doing, just more spread out.

 

[KOM]

We dont really see this much anymore, but any chance pog had an emergency bloodblag that turned out bad? Pretty sure alot of the 200x bonks were due to that

 

[The Clogger]

Nah, he just came into the tour undercooked healing from a broken wrist. His bag was popped after stage 5 obviously. Now, he is weared down.

 

[SantiBotero]

Never expected to feel for Pog lol

 

[fbjim]

Always knew he was a clean lad. Probably psychologically demoralized after realizing that his friend, Jonas "Rabobank" Vingegaard betrayed him. Very sad, I cry every time

 

[fbjim]

Tadej Pogacar... Our generation's David Moncoutié? In this video essay, I will discuss this topic

 

[FroomeWagon]

Bad blood bag?

 

[nightowl]

So nice of Pogacar to bonk hard today so Jumbo have a convenient way to explain everything away

 

[fbjim]

Looks like we can close this thread now that we know Tadej "Christophe Moreau" Pogacar is bravely fighting for clean cycling against the Rabobank menace folks

 

[QueenStagiaire]

He has herpes blisters… bad needles? I‘m somewhat kidding.

 

[fbjim]

He has herpes blisters… bad needles? I‘m somewhat kidding.

Maybe he violated the cardinal rule of athletics.

 

[Riek s]

well they were tested yesterday and this morning. Maybe he had a newbie who poked a bit to many holes and he lost to much blood?

 

[Salvarani]

So nice of Pogacar to bonk hard today so Jumbo have a convenient way to explain everything away

Makes life easier for everybody, doesnt it?

 

[IndianCyclist]

The most hilarious comment is from WVA "I am the best of the normal people" and he himself is not normal.

 

[Salvarani]

The most hilarious comment is from WVA "I am the best of the normal people" and he himself is not normal.

All that blood flowing, but not to the brain apparently.

 

[Rackham]

And now Pogačar is human & normal again.

I know people will scoff at this comment but that's... how cycling works. There's no miracle, i.e. la rançon de la gloire ("the price of fame" as the French call it) in cycling is total suspicion of wrongdoing when the gaps are massive & the first opponent gets annihilated.

Ullrich is a case study: doped to the gills yet at the time became the 'human visage' of cycling (& enjoyed some popular support at the side of the roads) whilst a cyborg massacred him again & again every July. There's no secret here & Jumbo are deluding themselves if they think their propaganda in which Vinge blows kisses to the crowds & embraces his wife & kid over the finish line will somehow protect him from the role of cycling baddie.

Yep, Jumbo & Vingegaard are now the bad guys. That's the price they pay for dominating in the manner they now dominate, whilst Pog earns the 'human' tag of a rider who is seen suffering on a bike.

 

[IndianCyclist]

well they were tested yesterday and this morning. Maybe he had a newbie who poked a bit to many holes and he lost to much blood?

yeah, the vampires were bribed by JV to suck a lot more blood from Pogacar.