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Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

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I don't think he cruised to victory, that is an exaggeration.

Cadel Evans got up from a worse crash in the 2008 Tour. Professionals are paid to keep riding when they crash. It is part of the job. And every crash is different.
Riding (not quitting) after a crash is still a bit different from easily dropping an in-form breakaway companion and jokingly putting 1.5min into him in just a few kilometers before easing off and enjoying the glory.
Plus, not sure how doping can help except to dull pain.
Fully agree on this one. But a good brushless (or similar) system fed by a freshly charged dozen of li-ion cells can just assume the forward propulsion task thereby making a diminished biological capability kind of irrelevant.
But pain killing substances are easily detected.

Cadel Evans Crash - Stage 9 - 2008 Tour de France
True that as well. But I think we already agreed on a sort of "cooperation" on the controllers' part being necessary for this kind of WWE-like circus to carry on.
 
Riding (not quitting) after a crash is still a bit different from easily dropping an in-form breakaway companion and jokingly putting 1.5min into him in just a few kilometers before easing off and enjoying the glory.

Fully agree on this one. But a good brushless (or similar) system fed by a freshly charged dozen of li-ion cells can just assume the forward propulsion task thereby making a diminished biological capability kind of irrelevant.

True that as well. But I think we already agreed on a sort of "cooperation" on the controllers' part being necessary for this kind of WWE-like circus to carry on.
Oh no, not motors again! :rolleyes:. Serves me right for coming back to the place of the weird and wonderful - The Clinic! :(
 
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I don't think he cruised to victory, that is an exaggeration.

Cadel Evans got up from a worse crash in the 2008 Tour. Professionals are paid to keep riding when they crash. It is part of the job. And every crash is different. Plus, not sure how doping can help except to dull pain. But pain killing substances are easily detected.

Cadel Evans Crash - Stage 9 - 2008 Tour de France
If he hadn't fallen, what would have happened? Would he have exploded like a nuclear bomb?



This guy has taken the problem too far, probably not at Armstrong's level in terms of popularity but as for palmares there is no comparison.
If this guy fails a doping test, cycling would no longer be able to survive.
That's why it will never happen and if it does happen they will never say it.
 
If he hadn't fallen, what would have happened? Would he have exploded like a nuclear bomb?



This guy has taken the problem too far, probably not at Armstrong's level in terms of popularity but as for palmares there is no comparison.
If this guy fails a doping test, cycling would no longer be able to survive.
That's why it will never happen and if it does happen they will never say it.
And that's why it's so effing frustrating since all competition is gone :confused_old:
 
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Rode like a gentleman, a good sportsman.
If staying composed and in control is super human, Pogacar fits the description. UAE rode a great race..
Wellens and Del Toro popped almost everyone before Pogacar had to do much, Pidcock and Conner Swift broke bike racing rules 1,2,3..know your limits and know history!! If you find yourself alone with Pogacar you contribute nothing, zero, not even a small pull..your job is to get behind him, eat, drink, draft and rest.. If you are Conner or Tom, don't get caught up in the moment, there is a reason that Pog is in rainbow jersey, even if it's temporarily torn, muddy and bloody!!
And for reference.. Today at Adriatico Del Toro in top 10 in ITT, UAE with 2 riders in top 10!! UAE is showing mastery not mockery!!
UAE perfomances are reminescent of the good old Postal days where we had Georgie Hincapie dropping every climber but Armstrong on the Alpes, riding tempo. Swap Hincapie with Politt or Wellens or whoever happens to be the lead domestique(s) and nothing has changed.
Thankfully Discovery channel's greed means that I'll be spared from Pog's "extraordinary" performances this year. It'll make my Zwift sessions more boring but will do wonders for my mental well being
 
UAE perfomances are reminescent of the good old Postal days where we had Georgie Hincapie dropping every climber but Armstrong on the Alpes, riding tempo. Swap Hincapie with Politt or Wellens or whoever happens to be the lead domestique(s) and nothing has changed.
Thankfully Discovery channel's greed means that I'll be spared from Pog's "extraordinary" performances this year. It'll make my Zwift sessions more boring but will do wonders for my mental well being

your mental well being shouldn't depend on who wins races no?
your economic well being sure depends also on Discovery's huge costs and I agree with you to skip it
 
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Teddy: "I can't do it anymore, I'm so painful"
Mauro: "Boy, show the people what they want to see" {pushing a button in his RC]
In a humorous form, that's likely pretty much what happened. A bike change came handy this way since only a quarter of the distance was left to be covered. Under normal circumstances, they were probably planning on, say, 100W worth of "smart" assist in the finale. But given the extenuating circumstances, a valid medical reason, so to speak, 300W or so became "well justified." And the freshly charged li-ion in the new bike were happy to provide that.
 
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