Plenty of time to fix it after the crash, if only their teammates had been where they should.
And the Orica riders mostly were where they should.
And the Orica riders mostly were where they should.
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hrotha said:Plenty of time to fix it after the crash, if only their teammates had been where they should.
And the Orica riders mostly were where they should.
sir fly said:At 106,4 kilometres to go for Quintana/Contador group, Froome's 25 seconds behind, constantly losing time for a couple of kilometres. He's communicating via radio, requesting speeding up. A minute behind (him) is a large group led by Sky quartet.
At that point, DS should have ordered Froome to wait for the quartet and then organise the chase together with Orica.
Maybe the breakaway would have still succeeded, but it was on DS to manage the situation in a way that would give his team leader the best chance and calm him down.
100 kilometres...
Most in his shoes wouldn't ? The big three have made it quite clear the last few years they would be going to veulta even if they win the tourJRanton said:PremierAndrew said:For all the discussion of the team's shortcomings today, none of this would have happened if Froome was on Quintana's wheel. He has to take a large chunk of the responsibility. Anyway, it's a learning experience for next year's Tour probably
Yeah I agree. The crash that caused the split was unfortunate but you can argue he should have been in front of it anyway on Quintana's wheel. He made the big effort to bridge on the climb and probably wanted to save some energy by starting the descent towards the back of that front group. Still, it all comes back to being too far down in the peloton in those first few km's. It's not really a learning experience as he's experienced enough to know where he should be. Just a bit of complacency and I guess it's understandable after winning the Tour. Most riders in his shoes wouldn't even be at the Vuelta!
Scarponi said:Most in his shoes wouldn't ? The big three have made it quite clear the last few years they would be going to veulta even if they win the tourJRanton said:PremierAndrew said:For all the discussion of the team's shortcomings today, none of this would have happened if Froome was on Quintana's wheel. He has to take a large chunk of the responsibility. Anyway, it's a learning experience for next year's Tour probably
Yeah I agree. The crash that caused the split was unfortunate but you can argue he should have been in front of it anyway on Quintana's wheel. He made the big effort to bridge on the climb and probably wanted to save some energy by starting the descent towards the back of that front group. Still, it all comes back to being too far down in the peloton in those first few km's. It's not really a learning experience as he's experienced enough to know where he should be. Just a bit of complacency and I guess it's understandable after winning the Tour. Most riders in his shoes wouldn't even be at the Vuelta!
MatParker117 said:http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/team-sky-rumoured-wearing-castelli-kit-2017-283957
Castelli kit next year.
Are we going to get something like this? :surprised:MatParker117 said:http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/team-sky-rumoured-wearing-castelli-kit-2017-283957
Castelli kit next year.
I think there is a slight chance they change to white. White with blue and maybe black accents, like the Adidas kit in reverseTMP402 said:It would be fun if, having dragged the peloton towards black, Sky changed colour. I think they look good with white a la Kennaugh's national jersey but without stripes obviously, or the blue training kit they have.
Kokoso said:So definitely saying Sky good bye...and it even rhymes Despite Sky wanted to keep him.
One of the best riders on their roster and potential GT leader down.
Are you referring to König?JRanton said:Kokoso said:So definitely saying Sky good bye...and it even rhymes Despite Sky wanted to keep him.
One of the best riders on their roster and potential GT leader down.
But a pretty awful domestique and I don't think he has the level required to win a grand tour (certainly not against the best guys).
If Sky wanted to keep him then that suggests there is still some money to spend to find a replacement (someone better than Kenny bloody Elissonde!).
Are you referring to König?JRanton said:Kokoso said:So definitely saying Sky good bye...and it even rhymes Despite Sky wanted to keep him.
One of the best riders on their roster and potential GT leader down.
But a pretty awful domestique and I don't think he has the level required to win a grand tour (certainly not against the best guys).
If Sky wanted to keep him then that suggests there is still some money to spend to find a replacement (someone better than Kenny bloody Elissonde!).
HelloDolly said:Are Deignan , Feen and Peters staying at SKY ?
Would like to see Thomas target PR and RVV and forget stage racing ...just be ready for Dauphine, Tour .etc
Also Moscon is a real find for classic races
Kwait will need to shape up for Classics or he is out ...Brailsford is not sentimental
Stanard and Rowe will do well with maybe Rowe stepping up
Landa will have to perfrom in the Giro or he too is gone....SKY can afford alot of Doms for what they pay him
Froomes team at the Vuelta will need ot come with their A game
That should produce a better year
HelloDolly said:Are Deignan , Feen and Peters staying at SKY ?
Would like to see Thomas target PR and RVV and forget stage racing ...just be ready for Dauphine, Tour .etc
Also Moscon is a real find for classic races
Kwait will need to shape up for Classics or he is out ...Brailsford is not sentimental
Stanard and Rowe will do well with maybe Rowe stepping up
Landa will have to perfrom in the Giro or he too is gone....SKY can afford alot of Doms for what they pay him
Froomes team at the Vuelta will need ot come with their A game
That should produce a better year
silvergrenade said:HelloDolly said:Are Deignan , Feen and Peters staying at SKY ?
Would like to see Thomas target PR and RVV and forget stage racing ...just be ready for Dauphine, Tour .etc
Also Moscon is a real find for classic races
Kwait will need to shape up for Classics or he is out ...Brailsford is not sentimental
Stanard and Rowe will do well with maybe Rowe stepping up
Landa will have to perfrom in the Giro or he too is gone....SKY can afford alot of Doms for what they pay him
Froomes team at the Vuelta will need ot come with their A game
That should produce a better year
They will. We dont know what happened behind closed doors but Im sure it wont have been pretty.