The Official LANCE ARMSTRONG Thread 2010-2011

[ErmOkk]

Source: LA twitter.
Source: Graham Watson
Source: Versus TV

Conclusion: Highly probable

 

[No_Balls]

Conclusion: Highly probable

What these fanboys don´t understand is that this "hits his 1999 numbers", "shape of a lifetime" yada yada yada....is a patethic attempt from the RS spinmachine to control the race beforehand. To gain the upper hand.

I mean, IF the competitor thinks that Lord Lance is in "1999 shape" then AC would **** in his pants and doesn´t dare to attack.

Some guys aren´t equipped to think for themselves. Great to have RS then to think for them.

 

[Mellow Velo]

According to this, Contador is hitting numbers well in excess of anything the Armstrong propaganda machine can roll out:
http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/07/contadors-mystery-training-plans.html

Double???

 

[Publicus]

According to this, Contador is hitting numbers well in excess of anything the Armstrong propaganda machine can roll out:
http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/07/contadors-mystery-training-plans.html

Double???

Interesting article. He doesn't have access to his training plan but he has access to his power meter??? It reads like he's trying to force AC to divulge his training plans to avoid a doping allegation based on the 10% gain figure pulled out of thin air (at least no support for the figure was provided).

 

[Condorman]

According to this, Contador is hitting numbers well in excess of anything the Armstrong propaganda machine can roll out:
http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/07/contadors-mystery-training-plans.html

Double???

Yeah but Perthuis is a french knobhead - what does he know?

 

[auscyclefan94]

I have been reading the Tour de Lance book by Bill Strickland on Lance's 2009. He says during his book quite a few times that anonymous riders said to him that Alberto wanted him to ride Castilla Leon so Alberto could "smash" him. He seems to pain the feud between the pair also Albero's fault as he was trying to cause the rift between them and is arrogant. Imo, they are quite alike so it was going to be hard for them to get along.

A recent interview with Gilles le Roch with Contador in may, it was interesting that he kept asking the same question in different ways to get a "reaction" or a remark out Contadors against Lance. Even with what we know, I think it was a lot worse than what we already know. I found it odd that even on this forum people did not think there was a feud after the ttt because they rode so well together.

 

[Publicus]

I have been reading the Tour de Lance book by Bill Strickland on Lance's 2009. He says during his book quite a few times that anonymous riders said to him that Alberto wanted him to ride Castilla Leon so Alberto could "smash" him. He seems to pain the feud between the pair also Albero's fault as he was trying to cause the rift between them and is arrogant. Imo, they are quite alike so it was going to be hard for them to get along.

A recent interview with Gilles le Roch with Contador in may, it was interesting that he kept asking the same question in different ways to get a "reaction" or a remark out Contadors against Lance. Even with what we know, I think it was a lot worse than what we already know. I found it odd that even on this forum people did not think there was a feud after the ttt because they rode so well together.

I would not put much weight on what Strickland has heard from Armstrong or other anonymous sources about what Contador was or was not thinking. Just by virtue of the fact that AC races to win in almost every race he enters (save the Dauphine) and Armstrong theoretically the opposite, then the outcome was pre-determined no matter which race they raced together (except the Tour).

 

[CycloErgoSum]

who said anything about goodness?

You did. Your words were 'Good on him.' That's conferring goodness. Perhaps you use phrases glibly?

BTW, thanks for calling me intelligent. That was really nice of you (I hope that wasn't glib too!)

 

[python]

Interesting article. He doesn't have access to his training plan but he has access to his power meter??? It reads like he's trying to force AC to divulge his training plans to avoid a doping allegation based on the 10% gain figure pulled out of thin air (at least no support for the figure was provided).

he did just like the 5% improvement for texas was pulled out of thin air.

however, there are some interesting links posted around recently that contextualize the numbers,

for ex, braj claims 10% improvement (in his cp5=5 min max effort) since the dl and friel (a famous coach advocating power meters) commented that 5% would be a more expected improvement.

whatever berto is doing, i have no problems if he keeps it to himself rather than selling a lie or taking fans for idiots with his 'blood values' as texas does.

 

[Tom T.]

All this talk of "numbers" is bunk. Just look at how much Lance is yapping about the cobble sections. He clearly is counting on this stage being decisive and AC losing minutes or, even better, crashing out. He knows he can't compete mano a mano, no matter what numbers he throws out there. What he needs is another Passage du Gois, he isn't going to get it.

 

[Race Radio]

According to this, Contador is hitting numbers well in excess of anything the Armstrong propaganda machine can roll out:
http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/07/contadors-mystery-training-plans.html

Double???

The answer to Contador's rapid improvement is in that article, Pepe Marti.

 

[flicker]

All this talk of "numbers" is bunk. Just look at how much Lance is yapping about the cobble sections. He clearly is counting on this stage being decisive and AC losing minutes or, even better, crashing out. He knows he can't compete mano a mano, no matter what numbers he throws out there. What he needs is another Passage du Gois, he isn't going to get it.

Cycling is a team sport. When it comes to the seperation it becomes a chess match. Obviously Lance wants to knock the other guys chess pieces off the table in stage 3. That is called team tactics. Interesting the photos in cyclingnews. Who has the riders comfy on the cobbles and who does not. Liquigas and Astana do not look comfy. Why on earth do Spatacus /Saxo and Basso not where helmets on the cobbles? Are they so hard headed that they would risk concussion 3 days before the tour?

 

[Publicus]

Cycling is a team sport. When it comes to the seperation it becomes a chess match. Obviously Lance wants to knock the other guys chess pieces off the table in stage 3. That is called team tactics. Interesting the photos in cyclingnews. Who has the riders comfy on the cobbles and who does not. Liquigas and Astana do not look comfy. Why on earth do Spatacus /Saxo and Basso not where helmets on the cobbles? Are they so hard headed that they would risk concussion 3 days before the tour?

Nobody looked comfortable.

 

[flicker]

Nobody looked comfortable.

Basso looked very uncomfortable. With no helmet also. Good looking guy and stylish without the helmet but no helmet on the cobbles WTF

 

[Tom T.]

Cycling is a team sport. When it comes to the seperation it becomes a chess match. Obviously Lance wants to knock the other guys chess pieces off the table in stage 3. That is called team tactics. Interesting the photos in cyclingnews. Who has the riders comfy on the cobbles and who does not. Liquigas and Astana do not look comfy. Why on earth do Spatacus /Saxo and Basso not where helmets on the cobbles? Are they so hard headed that they would risk concussion 3 days before the tour?

Of course it's a team sport and stage 3 is the only stage where he can use his team to do damage. His team won't help him when AC and the Schlecks ride away in the mountains. It won't help him when he loses big time in the TT.

 

[Barrus]

Cycling is a team sport. When it comes to the seperation it becomes a chess match. Obviously Lance wants to knock the other guys chess pieces off the table in stage 3. That is called team tactics. Interesting the photos in cyclingnews. Who has the riders comfy on the cobbles and who does not. Liquigas and Astana do not look comfy. Why on earth do Spatacus /Saxo and Basso not where helmets on the cobbles? Are they so hard headed that they would risk concussion 3 days before the tour?

Am I the only one who tought Basso did not look that uncomfortable?

 

[flicker]

Of course it's a team sport and stage 3 is the only stage where he can use his team to do damage. His team won't help him when AC and the Schlecks ride away in the mountains. It won't help him when he loses big time in the TT.

I do not know if the Astana boys are up to the typical TdF speed on the flats and bumps in the tour. Their team looks like mountain goats to me. There will be a lot more flat shack attack then stage 3. That is my thinking.

 

[python]

wtf, everyone is parroting texas about the carnage on the cobble as if it's a given or he himself ain't gonna be risking. or as if the other teams will be passively waiting for the shack attack.

i bet that not knowing what vino will do, an excellent cobbles rider and as ever unpredictable, will give a lot headaches to texas.

 

[Ferminal]

wtf, everyone is parroting texas about the carnage on the cobble as if it's a given or he himself ain't gonna be risking. or as if the other teams will be passively waiting for the shack attack.

i bet that not knowing what vino will do, an excellent cobbles rider and as ever unpredictable, will give a lot headaches to texas.

But 'The Shack' lineup wouldn't even be in the top15 teams for the cobbled stage... Who would fall for that one?

 

[No_Balls]

According to this, Contador is hitting numbers well in excess of anything the Armstrong propaganda machine can roll out:
http://theinnerring.blogspot.com/2010/07/contadors-mystery-training-plans.html

Double???

10%

Now, i don´t think the -99 numbers will have such great affect. Guess the reply comes from Dr Ferraris basement.

 

[Barrus]

wtf, everyone is parroting texas about the carnage on the cobble as if it's a given or he himself ain't gonna be risking. or as if the other teams will be passively waiting for the shack attack.

i bet that not knowing what vino will do, an excellent cobbles rider and as ever unpredictable, will give a lot headaches to texas.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vino goes on a Kamikaze attack to take down as many of the RS riders as possible, push them of the road

 

[flicker]

wtf, everyone is parroting texas about the carnage on the cobble as if it's a given or he himself ain't gonna be risking. or as if the other teams will be passively waiting for the shack attack.

i bet that not knowing what vino will do, an excellent cobbles rider and as ever unpredictable, will give a lot headaches to texas.

Vino: the wild joker could be an issue. If Vino could somehow gain a lot of time in the first 9 days it would complicate things for the shack. Not good for Lance chasing vino if vino is in yellow. That would be excellent team tactics for Contador.

 

[Publicus]

Am I the only one who tought Basso did not look that uncomfortable?

You are not alone in that thought. Frank looked the most comfortable on the new Roubaix model (which incidentally raises the question of why Astana wasn't riding them as well).

 

[Tom T.]

I do not know if the Astana boys are up to the typical TdF speed on the flats and bumps in the tour. Their team looks like mountain goats to me. There will be a lot more flat shack attack then stage 3. That is my thinking.

I don't know, I think everyone is vastly underestimating Astana. I think they can handle the speed. The key is not having to defend the yellow too early, although I could see AC getting it in stage 8 or 9. They could probably give it away to a break into Gap on stage 10.

 

[Publicus]

Flicker it sounds like you have taken over for Polish. The Shack can do no wrong in your eyes. A team of mountain goats (Armstrong, Levi, Kloden, Jani, Horner, Paulhino) is what they are as well, but somehow, someway they will be the masters of the cobbles. Why? Who knows but that is the CW on stage 3.