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Oh, and you might address exactly which "natural" technique is best as what people "naturally" do seems to be all over the place
Oh, and then tell me WHY the best technique of yours is best and can't be improved upon.
All I have said is I think technique matters. I think I can theorize a better technique than what most people do. I can't prove it. But, you are telling me what most people do can't be improved upon. Prove it.
Cool. Prove it. Start by addressing Lutrell.JamesCun said:FrankDay said:Of course I have a bias that technique influences efficiency. This is obvious from the OP in this thread. But, more importantly, engineering principles demand such a view. Your assertion that it doesn't is so naive in this regards as to be laughable. But, if you don't understand this nothing I am going to say is going to change your mind. The only real question to an engineer is exactly what are all the elements involved in this "influencing" and how to optimize them. The fact that the same researchers came up with two conflicting results is no more compelling that one is right and the other wrong than if it were two different researchers. The statement "Thus, the present study provides no indication for the notion that technique affects energy consumption" is not evidence that technique doesn't affect energy consumption but only indicates that this study didn't find it. Perhaps their cohort were different the second time around such that the DC differences were so small in this group that differences couldn't be detected. All this represents is conflicting data. Technique has to affect energy efficiency, there is no other rational option.
You seem to be missing the point here. People aren't saying that technique doesn't matter, they are suggesting that the 'natural' technique that people use has been demonstrated to be just as efficient (or more efficient) as modified techniques. Your bias is displayed when you promote one study that supports your view, while at the same time downplaying another study, by the same authors, that doesn't support your view.
Oh, and you might address exactly which "natural" technique is best as what people "naturally" do seems to be all over the place
Oh, and then tell me WHY the best technique of yours is best and can't be improved upon.
All I have said is I think technique matters. I think I can theorize a better technique than what most people do. I can't prove it. But, you are telling me what most people do can't be improved upon. Prove it.