Tour de France 2015 Stage 17: Digne-les-Bains-Pra Loup 161km

[djpbaltimore]

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Quintana doesn't have a chance with a 1 vs 1 duel. He is more than 3 minutes behind.

He has to gain 3 min on Froome whether or not Valverde helps Contador. Bringing another competitor to the front just makes that task more difficult. Assuming their duo attack was allowed to go, it is very easy for me to visualize Contador cracking Valverde on the last climb and moving up to second in the GC. YMMV of course.

 

[saganftw]

lemond almost crashed descending

 

[Arredondo]

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They are going to let Geschke win the stage? The guy can climb.

I do not agree it's better for Quintana to get a 1-1 with Froome. It's much better if Contador is still in the mix. In that way, Froome has to counter more attacks, and can be exposed more easily.

In case it's a 1-on-1, tactics for Froome are easier.

Allos and Pra Loup still to come.

 

[justmeagain]

Lemond has attacked on the decent the race has just livened up.......oh wait!

 

[Netserk]

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Quintana doesn't have a chance with a 1 vs 1 duel. He is more than 3 minutes behind.

He has to gain 3 min on Froome whether or not Valverde helps Contador. Bringing another competitor to the front just makes that task more difficult. Assuming their duo attack was allowed to go, it is very easy for me to visualize Contador cracking Valverde on the last climb and moving up to second in the GC. YMMV of course.

Valverde and Contador up ahead means Froome has to chase while Nairo can sit on him. It makes it much more likely for Nairo to take time and Froome + It means that Valverde could win the overall as well.

 

[TMP402]

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Froome now has five teammates - plus two ahead. Oddly it looked like Roche and Porte took the 1st and 3rd mountain points.

1.PAUWELS S.5pts
2.HERRADA LOPEZ J.3pts
3.DURASEK K.2pts
4.DEGENKOLB J.1pts
Those were the point scorers

TMP think that was the intermediate sprint points

Hmm. I saw a graphic that showed Porte with 3 points, Yates with 2 and Roche with 1. Maybe the final three in the intermediate sprint??

 

[auscyclefan94]

8'24" now - Rogers attack was really worthwhile now /sarc

 

[Eagle]

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Froome now has five teammates - plus two ahead. Oddly it looked like Roche and Porte took the 1st and 3rd mountain points.

1.PAUWELS S.5pts
2.HERRADA LOPEZ J.3pts
3.DURASEK K.2pts
4.DEGENKOLB J.1pts
Those were the point scorers

TMP think that was the intermediate sprint points

Hmm. I saw a graphic that showed Porte with 3 points, Yates with 2 and Roche with 1. Maybe the final three in the intermediate sprint??

Yeah that was the intermediate, you can see the results here
http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2015/us/live/aso/

 

[Tryphon]

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lol some riders are realy fvcked up in the head

What happened? I wasn't watching

intermediate 'sprint' Sagan and Degenkolb naive and Vaugrenard imbecile

Vaugrenard was instructed to contest the intermediate sprint as Sagan had twice refused to take a turn when asked by Pinot.Seems fair to me,if Sagan wants the points then take a turn.

 

[ILovecycling]

Lol 8 minutes, Sky would be fresh as a daisy

 

[TMP402]

Geschke has only 2 pro wins

 

[Punkan]

Over 8 minutes now to Froome's group. Bit disappointed that Astana haven't pushed the tempo, thought Nibali was going to try to win this stage.

 

[djpbaltimore]

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Its ridiculous that some people still dont unnderstand that, or they think Froome will have like 2 hunger knocks

If you truly believe that Nairo can't beat Froome 1 v 1, that is even more reason to chase down Contador to keep their podium spots.

 

[TMP402]

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Froome now has five teammates - plus two ahead. Oddly it looked like Roche and Porte took the 1st and 3rd mountain points.

1.PAUWELS S.5pts
2.HERRADA LOPEZ J.3pts
3.DURASEK K.2pts
4.DEGENKOLB J.1pts
Those were the point scorers

TMP think that was the intermediate sprint points

Hmm. I saw a graphic that showed Porte with 3 points, Yates with 2 and Roche with 1. Maybe the final three in the intermediate sprint??

Yeah that was the intermediate, you can see the results here
http://www.letour.fr/le-tour/2015/us/live/aso/

Thanks!

 

[Miburo]

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8'24" now - Rogers attack was really worthwhile now /sarc

You're dumb? He can just drop back and help out Contador.

 

[Sky'sthelimit]

ILovecycling you may get your wish, rain on the helicopter camera lens.

 

[No_Balls]

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Quintana doesn't have a chance with a 1 vs 1 duel. He is more than 3 minutes behind.

He has to gain 3 min on Froome whether or not Valverde helps Contador. Bringing another competitor to the front just makes that task more difficult. Assuming their duo attack was allowed to go, it is very easy for me to visualize Contador cracking Valverde on the last climb and moving up to second in the GC. YMMV of course.

And how/when is he supposed to gain that when chasing down and controlling everything that remotely could put any pressure on Froome from further out then the last 4-5 km of the stage? This was the perfect moment of letting Sky burning a few matches before Pra-Loup.

 

[auscyclefan94]

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8'24" now - Rogers attack was really worthwhile now /sarc

You're dumb? He can just drop back and help out Contador.

Quite ironic that you ask that question considering your poor grammar but no I am not. He's not going to drop back 5 minutes after pushing all of that effort on the previous climb and descent. If he does, that is simply wasteful. Sky is fresh as a daisy now with this slow tempo.

 

[Sylvester]

No attacks until 30 km to go methinks. The climb's just not steep enough.

No rain on the descent apparently.

 

[ILovecycling]

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lol some riders are realy fvcked up in the head

What happened? I wasn't watching

intermediate 'sprint' Sagan and Degenkolb naive and Vaugrenard imbecile

Vaugrenard was instructed to contest the intermediate sprint as Sagan had twice refused to take a turn when asked by Pinot.Seems fair to me,if Sagan wants the points then take a turn.

Nice! Thanks

 

[whittashau]

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Over 8 minutes now to Froome's group. Bit disappointed that Astana haven't pushed the tempo, thought Nibali was going to try to win this stage.

They're waiting for it to rain

 

[Jagartrott]

Frank to win the Tour 2015!

 

[The Hitch]

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The difference of Contador and Movistar is the difference of riding for the win vs riding for the podium.

Movistar pulling Froome? Where have we seen that before?

Disappointing. I hope Movistar will ride more sensible for the the rest of the stage (and Tour).

Great picture. Was the most pathetic shameful riding I have ever seen.

 

[Eagle]

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Over 8 minutes now to Froome's group. Bit disappointed that Astana haven't pushed the tempo, thought Nibali was going to try to win this stage.

Astana are probably betting on Kangerts chances from the break

 

[Miburo]

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8'24" now - Rogers attack was really worthwhile now /sarc

You're dumb? He can just drop back and help out Contador.

Quite ironic that you ask that question considering your poor grammar but no I am not. He's not going to drop back 5 minutes after pushing all of that effort on the previous climb and descent. If he does, that is simply wasteful. Sky is fresh as a daisy now with this slow tempo.

I can speak multiple languages, sorry that english isn't my main language. How many do you know?