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Tour de France 2017 Stage 18: Briançon - Izoard, 179.5kms

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Alexandre B. said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(
Valverde is irrelevant.

Same routine different year

Here's a spoiler for next year, Valverde looks like a beast early season, wins a bunch of stage race stages, flèche wallone etc, hyped up for a grand tour, sprints for some bonuses, collapses in the high mountains, podiums the vuelta
 
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Brullnux said:
Ikbengodniet said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(

Froome is at the same level. The rest just got near his level.
Strongly doubt this. Froome hasn't performed alien level for two years now, and there is a reason why. He is onyl a few months younger than Nibali after all.

His numbers are still the same. It's not Froome 2013 but he is the same as last 2 years.
 
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TomLPC said:
Alexandre B. said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(
Valverde is irrelevant.

Same routine different year

Here's a spoiler for next year, Valverde looks like a beast early season, wins a bunch of stage race stages, flèche wallone etc, hyped up for a grand tour, sprints for some bonuses, collapses in the high mountains, podiums the vuelta

Lol, but actually spot on.
 
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happytramp said:
arvc40 said:
Absolutely crazy to see kwiat pull off and have to stop. At that intensity nobody is doing anything flashy

There's a chance they play it up for the camera.... just to prove how much they're burying themselves.. If they didn't stop brailsford would probably give out to them for still having energy left.
You could see how dead Kwiat was when he took off his sunglasses and just threw them away, instead of putting them on his helmet or on his person somewhere.
 
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Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(

Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.
 
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Pantani Attacks said:
Weakest I have seen Froome since pre Vuelta transformation. Dead lucky Landa and Kwiat were stronger than him and were able to carry him whilst also weakening everyone else.
for gazillionth time you can help but s**t on froome... :p for sure both landa and kwiat would've easily won the tour, had they ridden it for themselves. :lol
 
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MatParker117 said:
Ikbengodniet said:
Gigs_98 said:
Ikbengodniet said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(

Froome is at the same level. The rest just got near his level.
I doubt that Uran and Bardet are as strong as Quintana in 2015.

That is because Quintana 2015 was stronger than Froome.
Yet who got the Jersey.

Froome got the jersey due to having a better team in stage 2, not because being the better rider. In 2015 Nairo was the best rider, everyone could see that. The GC winner is not always automatically the best rider of that particular GT.
 
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DFA123 said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(
Yep, really poor GC standard this year. I think Bardet and Uran will look back at this and really regret not having at least tried to do a longer range attack or some other tactical move. This may well be their one shot at winning the biggest race in the world, and neither had the balls to really go for it.

I totally agree. There are for sure on the same level as Froome. And if you're on the same level, you can try to put Sky and Froome under pressure by playing a tactical game.

I mean, if you're on the rope and someone is far more superior, i can live with the current outcome. But now, under the current circumstances, i have the same (bad) feeling about this race. If, if, if.....
 
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DFA123 said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(
Yep, really poor GC standard this year. I think Bardet and Uran will look back at this and really regret not having at least tried to do a longer range attack or some other tactical move. This may well be their one shot at winning the biggest race in the world, and neither had the balls to really go for it.

Especially Uran when he had more leeway at the beginning of the race when he wasn't even in discussion for gc.
 
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Carols said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(

Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.

Three riders within 30 seconds isn't rivalry ?
 
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Froome jumped to soon. Should of waited till after the small descent then gone full "Alien" . Would of been more likely to force the gap to stick.
 
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Carols said:
Arredondo said:
How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.

It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really :(

Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.

I still think 2015 Valverde would have had a shot at winning this Tour. And Valverde was so strong this season, there was no reason to assume he was not riding at the same level as he did in the Tour of '15. In that race, he was also strong in the high mountains.