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Same routine different year
Here's a spoiler for next year, Valverde looks like a beast early season, wins a bunch of stage race stages, flèche wallone etc, hyped up for a grand tour, sprints for some bonuses, collapses in the high mountains, podiums the vuelta
Alexandre B. said:Valverde is irrelevant.Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Same routine different year
Here's a spoiler for next year, Valverde looks like a beast early season, wins a bunch of stage race stages, flèche wallone etc, hyped up for a grand tour, sprints for some bonuses, collapses in the high mountains, podiums the vuelta
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His numbers are still the same. It's not Froome 2013 but he is the same as last 2 years.
Brullnux said:Strongly doubt this. Froome hasn't performed alien level for two years now, and there is a reason why. He is onyl a few months younger than Nibali after all.Ikbengodniet said:Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Froome is at the same level. The rest just got near his level.
His numbers are still the same. It's not Froome 2013 but he is the same as last 2 years.
Froome attacked at the wrong point, he should have gone after the small descent was finished and they were climbing again, it would have probably stuck then.
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Lol, but actually spot on.
TomLPC said:Alexandre B. said:Valverde is irrelevant.Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Same routine different year
Here's a spoiler for next year, Valverde looks like a beast early season, wins a bunch of stage race stages, flèche wallone etc, hyped up for a grand tour, sprints for some bonuses, collapses in the high mountains, podiums the vuelta
Lol, but actually spot on.
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You could see how dead Kwiat was when he took off his sunglasses and just threw them away, instead of putting them on his helmet or on his person somewhere.happytramp said:
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Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.
Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.
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Lolz, nope the ASO will try to design a course like this again, perhaps with more dangerous descents for Bardetluckyboy said:
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for sure both landa and kwiat would've easily won the tour, had they ridden it for themselves. :lol
for gazillionth time you can help but s**t on froome...Pantani Attacks said:
for sure both landa and kwiat would've easily won the tour, had they ridden it for themselves. :lol
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What a low competition!
http://www.climbing-records.com/2017/07/barguil-sets-tremendous-record-on-izoard.htmlArredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
What a low competition!
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Small time differences, yet easiest Tour for Froome ever.
God that was awful. Thankfully we had Barguil for some awesome climbing skills. Showing the 'contenders' how to do it.
Uran is really the most boring rider of the past 100 years
God that was awful. Thankfully we had Barguil for some awesome climbing skills. Showing the 'contenders' how to do it.
Uran is really the most boring rider of the past 100 years
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Froome got the jersey due to having a better team in stage 2, not because being the better rider. In 2015 Nairo was the best rider, everyone could see that. The GC winner is not always automatically the best rider of that particular GT.
MatParker117 said:Yet who got the Jersey.Ikbengodniet said:Gigs_98 said:I doubt that Uran and Bardet are as strong as Quintana in 2015.Ikbengodniet said:Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Froome is at the same level. The rest just got near his level.
That is because Quintana 2015 was stronger than Froome.
Froome got the jersey due to having a better team in stage 2, not because being the better rider. In 2015 Nairo was the best rider, everyone could see that. The GC winner is not always automatically the best rider of that particular GT.
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I totally agree. There are for sure on the same level as Froome. And if you're on the same level, you can try to put Sky and Froome under pressure by playing a tactical game.
I mean, if you're on the rope and someone is far more superior, i can live with the current outcome. But now, under the current circumstances, i have the same (bad) feeling about this race. If, if, if.....
DFA123 said:Yep, really poor GC standard this year. I think Bardet and Uran will look back at this and really regret not having at least tried to do a longer range attack or some other tactical move. This may well be their one shot at winning the biggest race in the world, and neither had the balls to really go for it.Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
I totally agree. There are for sure on the same level as Froome. And if you're on the same level, you can try to put Sky and Froome under pressure by playing a tactical game.
I mean, if you're on the rope and someone is far more superior, i can live with the current outcome. But now, under the current circumstances, i have the same (bad) feeling about this race. If, if, if.....
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Unlikely .considering French hopes Barguil, Bardet, Pinot are not so good in TTsluckyboy said:
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Crazy how people are undermining someone who just* won the Tour de France for the FOURTH time
Crazy how people are undermining someone who just* won the Tour de France for the FOURTH time
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Especially Uran when he had more leeway at the beginning of the race when he wasn't even in discussion for gc.
DFA123 said:Yep, really poor GC standard this year. I think Bardet and Uran will look back at this and really regret not having at least tried to do a longer range attack or some other tactical move. This may well be their one shot at winning the biggest race in the world, and neither had the balls to really go for it.Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Especially Uran when he had more leeway at the beginning of the race when he wasn't even in discussion for gc.
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Three riders within 30 seconds isn't rivalry ?
Carols said:Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.
Three riders within 30 seconds isn't rivalry ?
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Froome jumped to soon. Should of waited till after the small descent then gone full "Alien" . Would of been more likely to force the gap to stick.
Froome jumped to soon. Should of waited till after the small descent then gone full "Alien" . Would of been more likely to force the gap to stick.
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I still think 2015 Valverde would have had a shot at winning this Tour. And Valverde was so strong this season, there was no reason to assume he was not riding at the same level as he did in the Tour of '15. In that race, he was also strong in the high mountains.
Carols said:Arredondo said:How bad will Valverde feel atm? He could have won this race. Froome is nowhere near his level of the past years.
It's just that the competition is at a low now. I have never seen such poor rivalry since .... i don't know really
Bala has always been on my fav list but he would not have won this Tour. There is a reason he only has 1 Vuelta win in all his years of riding GTs. He just isn't at his best in the High mountains. He most likely would have podiumed though.
I still think 2015 Valverde would have had a shot at winning this Tour. And Valverde was so strong this season, there was no reason to assume he was not riding at the same level as he did in the Tour of '15. In that race, he was also strong in the high mountains.
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