Tour de France 2020 | Stage 11 (Châtelaillon-Plage - Poitiers, 167.5 km)

[Brumdog66]

I called for DSQ of Bennett the other day, and would call for DSQ of Sagan. He used his shoulder but also his head, and he did so against the cleanest sprinter of the peloton.

WvA could easily have closed the door for Sagan but he is too nice. If this doesn't lead to any fine or DSQ, you convert yet another clean sprinter into a dirty one.

And from WvA's interview, he said a four-letter word and Sagain said the same thing back like he didn't feel any remorse.

Yeah I've changed my mind I'm all for shoulder to shoulder but using your head is different

 

[Valv.Piti]

I called for DSQ of Bennett the other day, and would call for DSQ of Sagan. He used his shoulder but also his head, and he did so against the cleanest sprinter of the peloton.

WvA could easily have closed the door for Sagan but he is too nice. If this doesn't lead to any fine or DSQ, you convert yet another clean sprinter into a dirty one.

And from WvA's interview, he said a four-letter word and Sagain said the same thing back like he didn't feel any remorse.

Sagan is just an arrogant idiot most of times. Good thing more and more realizes that now

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

The bias towards Sagan from commentators is hilarious at this point

To be fair, Bob and Phil instantly said he would likely be relegated

 

[Broccolidwarf]

What's with all the drama on Sagan?

A small shoulder push is quite normal in a bunch sprint, when you are trying to pass a slower rider

 

[bob.a.feet]

I called for DSQ of Bennett the other day, and would call for DSQ of Sagan. He used his shoulder but also his head, and he did so against the cleanest sprinter of the peloton.

WvA could easily have closed the door for Sagan but he is too nice. If this doesn't lead to any fine or DSQ, you convert yet another clean sprinter into a dirty one.

And from WvA's interview, he said a four-letter word and Sagain said the same thing back like he didn't feel any remorse.

Tbf, if someone tells him to f*ck off he's probably going to tell them likewise. I wouldn't necessarily call that a lack of remorse.

 

[Salvarani]

What other cases? Let's not pretend this was ever or is considered 'normal' sprinting behaviour.

Im talking about future cases.

You set an example with this one, then consistency about this topic/situations is what needs to happen going forward.

The problem is bigger than one individual.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

The main issue here is that Sagan does it all the time. If they don't do anything now, he will continue to create unnecessary risks and will always have this race to use it as an example.

All sprinters do it, and I fail to see why you think Sagan is particularly bad?

 

[BlueRoads]

Relegation would be my approach. Taking him out just to make a "statement" that would not be just in my opinion. He should be punished, but not by the harshest of measures.

 

[Flamin]

It is kind of difficult to tell you exactly what future cases there will be. The point is just that the jury lines have to be consistent.

Why wouldn't they? Has this ever gone unpunished before?

"Setting an example" suggests it has, hence my question.

 

[wirral]

Relegated

 

[happytramp]

Relagated

 

[JosephK]

Relegation seems about right.

 

[SKSemtex]

I think if they DQs him it will be the last stage of Sagan on the Tour.

The first DQ was the mistake and they probably just close one eye now to make it draw.

 

[Luthor]

Sagan was relegated apparently.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Relegated

 

[Bonimenier]

Relegated

 

[d-s3]

I've seen such pushes so many times. But it takes Sagan to get hysterics out

(end of the group relegation at worst for this)

 

[Valv.Piti]

Good thing he was relegated, well deserved for such a dangerous move.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

That's the right call. Didn't deserve to be DQed in my opinion. Also, cycling is a bit too tenuous right now for them to kick out one of the biggest stars over a borderline case.

 

[Brumdog66]

Is there any actual rules about this because noones mentioned any?

 

[Luthor]

All sprinters do it, and I fail to see why you think Sagan is particularly bad?

Never said others don't do it. What I mean is that he tends to do it too often.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

I've seen such pushes so many times. But it takes Sagan to get hysterics out

(end of the group relegation at worst for this)

I fully agree, it's quite the small push, just to make a hole for himself, all sprinters do it all the time

 

[Pricey_sky]

Relegation for the stage is the correct decision, it would have been harsh to DQ from the race, but leading with your head and giving another rider a nudge is not correct.

 

[huangho]

Well, relegation is good... But something needs to be corrected, nobody wants to get hurt because of those dangerous moves

 

[Wvv]

Good DSQ. Anyone that keeps protecting Sagan clearly has no clue about his riding style and his respect for others.

Edit: with DSQ I mean a relegation.