Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 14: Pau - Saint-Lary-Soulan Pla d’Adet 151.9km

[tretiak]

Amazingly, being on the front of the race, motos are in front of him. But sure, only Tadej benefits from this phenomenon…I guess ‘cause he’s always out front?

There are motorcycles even at other riders. you see that the motorcycle that is close to Jonas is going behind him. the motorcycle in front of Tadej is not even a TV motorcycle but a photographer. Extra embarrassing. Then you can try to be funny, do you compete on equal terms or not?

 

[kingjr]

Did anyone notice that it looked like Remco has a fever blister on his lower lip? For the races sake, I hope he isn't getting sick.

Yes, already for a few days.

 

[slim charles]

'Damaging the image of the sport'

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812159235272138907

To be fair, the 2001 stage was somewhat harder, and longer.

 

[red_flanders]

There are motorcycles even at other riders. you see that the motorcycle that is close to Jonas is going behind him. the motorcycle in front of Tadej is not even a TV motorcycle but a photographer. Extra embarrassing. Then you can try to be funny, do you compete on equal terms or not?

I recommend counting the times the guy attacking on the final climb doesn’t have a moto in front. Get back to me.

 

[Sciatic]

yates decoy didnot work really.

It was a lead-out not a decoy

 

[Tim Cahill]

To be fair, the 2001 stage was somewhat harder, and longer.

Yes definitely harder, though the stage today was ridden pretty hard to be fair, difficult/long break formation and about 30 riders at the foot?

 

[kingjr]

To be fair, the 2001 stage was somewhat harder, and longer.

And the finish is different. And yes, in 2001 Ullrich already attacked 3 climbs before the finish, just a completely different scenario altogether.

 

[noob]

Something about their asses. Remco would like to see Tadej's more and not from 500 metres down the mountain.

Tadej says he has to see Remcos ass, cooling down.

Remco says, he would like to see Tadej’s more and not from 500m away.

Thanks! I guess they know what the audience wants

 

[search]

Did Vanhoucke already ask Wellens for more of the same tomorrow?

 

[red_flanders]

Tadej says he has to see Remcos ass, cooling down.

Remco says, he would like to see Tadej’s more and not from 500m away.

Shoulda said “I’d prefer you saw it during the finale”.

 

[Danskebjerge]

To be fair, the 2001 stage was somewhat harder, and longer.

But at a considerably slower average speed, so those two factors should even each other out.

 

[tretiak]

I recommend counting the times the guy attacking on the final climb doesn’t have a moto in front. Get back to me.

Of course there should be a motorcycle in front, it's all about distance, hope you got that?

 

[RobertCrawley]

To be fair, the 2001 stage was somewhat harder, and longer.

Lots of reasons. Those old times occurred before altitude camps and advanced metrics in training. It's a different game these days. Consider how much faster those pros from previous generations would go on a dialed-in, $15k bike.

 

[tobydawq]

But at a considerably slower average speed, so those two factors should even each other out.

No they shouldn't.

 

[kingjr]

But at a considerably slower average speed, so those two factors should even each other out.

That stage was raced completely differently to today. Many more factors than just two involved.

 

[red_flanders]

Of course there should be a motorcycle in front, it's all about distance, hope you got that?

Complaining about the moto when a guy is destroying the field comes off as a bit whiny, no?

Anyone attacking would have gotten the same effect.

 

[Danskebjerge]

No they shouldn't.

I know you want me to ask you "why not?", but I'm not going to.

 

[Danskebjerge]

That stage was raced completely differently to today. Many more factors than just two involved.

Yes, definitely more factors than food and aerodynamics. I'm waiting for the "but the wind was different" argument.

 

[tobydawq]

I know you want me to ask you "why not?", but I'm not going to.

I wasn't. If I wanted to spend time explaining something obvious I would have done it in the first place.

Also instead of your insinuations here, you could go to the clinic.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I know you want me to ask you "why not?", but I'm not going to.

I'll do your dirty work then.

No they shouldn't.

Why not?

 

[Danskebjerge]

I wasn't. If I wanted to spend time explaining something obvious I would have done it in the first place.

I think it's the opposite. The more power you put into a stage, the less power you have left to put into the final climb. The longer you go before the final climb, the less power you have left to put into it. Comparable factors.

 

[Sciatic]

Kinda…my point? 😀

Saw your comment after I typed mine—the thread moves fast right after a stage like this!

 

[Sciatic]

Lots of reasons. Those old times occurred before altitude camps and advanced metrics in training. It's a different game these days. Consider how much faster those pros from previous generations would go on a dialed-in, $15k bike.

Hmm, still it’s 2 minutes faster than a guy on rocket fuel—you’re dismissing that too easily.

 

[Nomadist]

Well pog prob needed to recover so the slow down was probably the plan so he can push again

 

[kingjr]

I think it's the opposite. The more power you put into a stage, the less power you have left to put into the final climb. The longer you go before the final climb, the less power you have left to put into it. Comparable factors.

Yeah, that's what I said. The action started much, much earlier in 2001.