Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 19: Embrun - Isola 2000, 19/07 144.6k

[glassmoon]

Jonas to lose some time again... this is not 2023 or 2022

 

[AmRacer]

t's absurd that the Col de Vars is worth twice as many points as Isola 2000, but ASO decided to disadvantage the GC riders

I think that is good, so there will he a fight for the KOM jersey.

 

[fbjim]

I predict that I will get excessively angry and pedantic about people saying "Col de la Bonette"

 

[AmRacer]

I predict that I will get excessively angry and pedantic about people saying "Col de la Bonette"

Col de la Bonette
🤣

 

[fbjim]

so here's an actual question

do you think today, or tomorrow, is a worse stage for sprinters trying to make the time cut?

 

[Rob5091]

I predict that I will get excessively angry and pedantic about people saying "Col de la Bonette"

I advise using the mute button then on your TV!

 

[Mayomaniac]

Total Catholic domination!
I'll be riding 2 harder climbs at altitude today, Stelvio from Prad and Umbrail.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Can we please have a pedantic argument about if the Cime de la Bonette is the highest pass road in Europe? The actual pass is lower than multiple climbs like Iséran, Stelvio etc. while the road to the top is not a pass but a circular ring road around the mountain top starting and ending at the pass.

 

[Rob5091]

Mr Ring brings up the Highest road in Europe competition -
https://inrng.com/2024/07/tour-de-france-stage-19-preview-isola-2000/

Tackle the route and you’ll large signs at the start and top that boast “the highest road in Europe” but the Pico Veleta in Spain’s Sierra Nevada goes beyond 3,000m and it’s not the highest road in the Alps either as the Austria’s Ötztaler Gletscherstraße is 30 metres taller.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

To get any kind of excitement back into the GC, Vinge will need to take 90s on Pogi today....
So instead I'm hoping for some breakaction with Healy and Carapaz involved.

 

[fbjim]

With the "is this really a Queen Stage" talk, I wonder if the Tour actually does stages that everyone agrees would be a "queen stage" anymore. As of late it's been more "multiple difficult mountain stages" rather than a single stage everyone agrees is The Mountain Stage of the race.

Even something like Granon in 2022 you could argue wasn't the "actual" queen stage versus the disappointing Galibier/CdF/AdH stage.


that said, i think this is the closest in a while, even if i think PdB is actually the hardest stage of the race.

 

[ice&fire]

Can we please have a pedantic argument about if the Cime de la Bonette is the highest pass road in Europe? The actual pass is lower than multiple climbs like Iséran, Stelvio etc. while the road to the top is not a pass but a circular ring road around the mountain top starting and ending at the pass.

You missed the pedantry of the accurate definition of a pass.

 

[Andon]

To get any kind of excitement back into the GC, Vinge will need to take 90s on Pogi today....

Yes, the 90s are back! Oh wait, you meant 90 seconds

 

[Berniece]

This is an extremely hard day, and the last chance for Visma. If it doesn’t happen today, it won’t happen tomorrow.

 

[fbjim]

Just like Courchevel last year, I don't really think it's entirely up to Visma. It's up to Pogacar. Remember that he blew up on Loze before the attacking even began, though he had shown signs of weakness earlier. Haven't seen it yet, but it's obviously a possibility.

 

[Red Rick]

Can we please have a pedantic argument about if the Cime de la Bonette is the highest pass road in Europe? The actual pass is lower than multiple climbs like Iséran, Stelvio etc. while the road to the top is not a pass but a circular ring road around the mountain top starting and ending at the pass.

It's not an argument, you're just right.

 

[danielovichdk2]

Boring tour all together. Too dominant by a guy that won the Giro with two fingers in the nose and make his competition in the TdF look like amateurs. It's the double GT success that makes me question the humanity and at such a level.

It's becoming tiresome to watch. And we all know how the story goes. When something looks too good, it usually is. Same goes for Jonas.

Pog too take charge here and will take 5 minutes on Remco. Jonas to explode and drop out of top 5.

Tour is done. Either way it has been an extremely boring.

 

[svit]

No Rogla no competition ...

Today Pogacar will put additional minutes to Remco, who will also put some minutes to Vingegard, who will lose a few minutes. Landa will make the race for the podium interesting.

 

[OJRvE]

The climb is taken in the reverse direction to 2008 but what about the Cime? Is it always raced from one side or does it depend on the side of the Col the riders comes from.

 

[Red Rick]

The climb is taken in the reverse direction to 2008 but what about the Cime? Is it always raced from one side or does it depend on the side of the Col the riders comes from.

No if you take the same side you intersect your own route 2km away from each other, so they will take hte other side of Cime this time as well

 

[Taxus4a]

Remco for the stage victory. Let's hope Tadel and Vingo crack, and Remco can take yellow.

Long descents. even if he showed he can climb with the best a monster as la Bonnete, becouse he has no problems with altitude and becouse the slopes except las km are no so step, he will lost a lot of energu in every corner of the descent and Isola has a decent slope to drop him.

His stage was yesterday. He miss the oportunity, today we will answer some questions but the battles in Jonas-Pogacar for le Tour, where lot os questions are to answer

 

[BullsFan22]

Boring tour all together. Too dominant by a guy that won the Giro with two fingers in the nose and make his competition in the TdF look like amateurs. It's the double GT success that makes me question the humanity and at such a level.

It's becoming tiresome to watch. And we all know how the story goes. When something looks too good, it usually is. Same goes for Jonas.

Pog too take charge here and will take 5 minutes on Remco. Jonas to explode and drop out of top 5.

Tour is done. Either way it has been an extremely boring.

Sorry, but why watch?

 

[KZD]

So this is it, the most anticipated climb of the Tour is coming, Cime de la Bonette.

If Vingegaard is true to his word, he will try to attack Pogačar is some way so I expect Visma to pace and try to go for the stage win with him. However I do expect Pogačar to be able to follow and later counter to get his fourth stage win of this Tour. As for Remco, I think he will try to follow Vingegaard and if possible drop him somewhere on the Isola climb something that could actually happen based on what we saw on stage 17.

The breakaway can still have a chance if Vingegaard is on a bad day and Visma doesn't pace but I think this is one for the GC riders.

 

[staubsauger]

This is the difference between the 1998 Tour de France & the 2024 Tour de France.

In 1998 Plateau de Beille was the introduction for what would occur up towards Galibier - Les Deux Alpes. In 2024 Plateau de Beille already was the apex for the double as nothing flips up towards Bonette - Isola 2000!

I stay to be corrected of course. Then, it's another epic stage in the Alps!

 

[Colombiano Cadence]

Am I the only one who thinks the break has a great chance today? Which team has the horses to control this. UAE, but with Yates and Wellins looking under the weather, it is looking more iffy. Visma, not convinced. Who rides the valleys?? If UAE want Pollit to do that they will have to ride the climbs pretty slowly, same with Visma for WVA and tratnik.
If EF have Healy and Carapaz in the break then someone like Healy could really smash the valley roads.