Tour de France Tour de France 2024: Stage 19: Embrun - Isola 2000, 19/07 144.6k

[Samu Cuenca]

Still much of excitement in this bike race.
The much important and gruelling fight for the close-but-no-cigar spot:
GC #4 Almeida - 15'07
GC #5 Landa - 15'34

They are not even trying to fight each other, and Almeida will crush Landa in the ITT anyway.

 

[Rackham]

Am I right in thinking that was Pog's 15th stage win in the TdF? At this rate, Cavendish is really not safe with his 35.

Another 5 years at the rate of 4 stage wins per Tour & voilà, record equalled for Pog.

 

[fbjim]

They are not even trying to fight each other, and Almeida will crush Landa in the ITT anyway.

Mikel "Landis" Landa will destroy him for five minutes tomorrow op

 

[Taxus4a]

Up there with your hopes for froome today I am afraid.

Well It Nice to have aleays faith, but Pogacar has showed he IS clearly at another level in all kind of stages and efforts. There was one stage wich made doubts about that. Next year could be different, but this level is amazing.

 

[red_flanders]

Carapaz in the Maillot á Pois is probably the best thing about this stage. Vingo has to be happy about it anyway…

 

[ice&fire]

Still much of excitement in this bike race.
The much important and gruelling fight for the close-but-no-cigar spot:
GC #4 Almeida - 15'07
GC #5 Landa - 15'34

That's no longer a fight, With the final day's ITT Landa needs a 3 min advantage

 

[AnotherArmChair]

I think Pogacar may as well do the Vuelta ...wont take too much out of him and then he can really stick it to Visma who got 3 GT wins s last year with 3 riders and he can get 3 with one rider, himself

He seems to want to constantly show his dominance so why stop here
Also Armstrong warned about that the other day.

In his interviews Pog doesnt fail to say how hard every thing is ...The Bonette was so hard ? yeah maybe for Neils Pollitt

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Still can‘t cross the road at 2k to go because of Démare‘s massive grinta…

Is he making it? I was worried at start of first climb Col du Vars, now hours ago...
Edit: I guess not. Clock counting down time to cut off: 0'0'28 / riders left: 1

 

[movingtarget]

It's insane if he isn't going to do the vuelta this year. He looks fresh and indestructible. Who is gonna beat him? Roglic?? Someone on his own team?? Does not look remotely tired

Looks can be deceiving. He will be feeling it on Monday you would think.

 

[RedheadDane]

Is he making it? I was worried at start of first climb Col du Vars, now hours ago...

Vinjebo doesn't seem to think so.

 

[KOM]

So its the big 1 now, i guess?

 

[dercuforever]

This is one of the most insecure things I have seen in some time. Is Pog really going for a 4th stage and the KOM jersey when he's about lock up his 3rd TdF? This is like Novak Djokovic obsessively trying to win some ATP 500 event.

If you want to beat Merckx you need to win everything you can.

 

[Rollthedice]

That's a little harsh, man. I don't think he humiliated Jonas. Ofc they believed in him but there were 2 huge unknowns, one being Pogs shape after the Giro and Jonas' ability to go deep in multiple mountain stages.

The way Pog rode against Vinge all this tour, "the look" on PdB, sprinting when there's no need and today, the Slovenian did everything to put Vinge in his place. Maybe it's harsh to say humiliation or demolition but it's 5 minutes with 2 stages to go.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Pog explaining how hard the stage was after smashing everyone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6n1aK0ZSo&ab_channel=LucasIsHere

 

[FrontHeadlock]

If you want to beat Merckx you need to win everything you can.

I guarantee you Pog and Djoker have notebooks with all sorts of records listed where they obsessively track progress. Feels neurotic.

 

[RobertCrawley]

I don't think we've seen yet how good this guy can be.

 

[Tim Cahill]

I don't think the Tour de France GC, something which has been won multiple times in a row at multiple points, is something that has a "massive pool of potential winners" op. eras like 06-11 are not exactly common.

I'm not really talking about the TDF GC, post was more in the context of cycling as a whole relative to Pogacar/Vingegaard's dominance in every race of the past few years.

Of course there will always be the occasional surprise and I still enjoy it in parts, but the classics, one weekers and Tour stages do seem to be becoming a bit more of a closed shop.

 

[Unchained]

Their logic is that having a few guys winning everything and do battle against each other will draw in a casual audience because it doesn't require the same attention-span and can be condensed into 5 minute YouTube shorts and Netflix documentaries. The problem is that it isn't the reason a lot of us posting here watch, cycling historically has been a long-form sport that rewarded engagement and attention to detail with its massive pool of potential winners and this is what we became accustomed to, the assumption we worked under.

Contrast the discourse of younger posters on reddit/twitter with the mood on here right now, the sport to varying degrees has always required a suspension of belief that is completely gone amongst most fans that have been paying attention for any period of time, but the money keeps on rolling in and the newer fans are pouring in.

The bubble will burst eventually as usual, and these once new fans (the ones that stick around) will become cynical trolls like myself, but for now unfortunately our opinions are a bit irrelevant.

There is still plenty of cycling to enjoy, so I continue to watch, but if any new fan might happen to see this post, don't deify these top guys, don't hold them on a pedestal, because they will just let you down, they always do.

If you look at all forms of bike racing, subscription service and social media have a million times more access to races and racers. All kinds of everything, individual, team bus,training camps, visiting w riders at home. If you think about how much access, no information about anything was the standard. These back stories are helpful all around. You see stories like yesterday..Victor Campenaerts, Ving, Pog, they have brought Peter Sagan popularity to the next levels. Gives fans something, someone to follow.
Lemond got blasted with a shotgun and his story was consolidated to what American network TV worked up, 2-3 minutes of special coverage on race day of TDF. Almost nothing. Roglic ski jumper story not really exploited much, social media was not the story telling tool as it is currently. Putting riders on a pedestal, the hype, the build up is exactly how other sports succeed, boxing,golf,tennis, they all have a orchestrated hype of rivalry or personal stories that people love. Watching people fail is part of the fun..when Pogacar is standing on earth again, and he will, the story will be great..

 

[Nick2413]

Their logic is that having a few guys winning everything and do battle against each other will draw in a casual audience because it doesn't require the same attention-span and can be condensed into 5 minute YouTube shorts and Netflix documentaries. The problem is that it isn't the reason a lot of us posting here watch, cycling historically has been a long-form sport that rewarded engagement and attention to detail with its massive pool of potential winners and this is what we became accustomed to, the assumption we worked under.

Contrast the discourse of younger posters on reddit/twitter with the mood on here right now, the sport to varying degrees has always required a suspension of belief that is completely gone amongst most fans that have been paying attention for any period of time, but the money keeps on rolling in and the newer fans are pouring in.

The bubble will burst eventually as usual, and these once new fans (the ones that stick around) will become cynical trolls like myself, but for now unfortunately our opinions are a bit irrelevant.

There is still plenty of cycling to enjoy, so I continue to watch, but if any new fan might happen to see this post, don't deify these top guys, don't hold them on a pedestal, because they will just let you down, they always do.

It’s called ****ification. This is what happens when everything is made for the masses and not the real fans.

 

[fbjim]

I'm not really talking about the TDF GC, post was more in the context of cycling as a whole relative to Pogacar/Vingegaard's dominance in every race of the past few years.

Of course there will always be the occasional surprise and I still enjoy it in parts, but the classics, one weekers and Tour stages do seem to be becoming a bit more of a closed shop.

i think the one days were down to a special case where absolutely every single contender seemed completely incapable of staying uninjured at the same time

 

[RedheadDane]

Demare OTL...

 

[dercuforever]

its just all *** season. 18 wins already. and he has the cheek to not even look tired.

To be fair Hindley or A. Yates Always look fine until they crack

 

[RobertCrawley]

Tadej said the break can go tomorrow. Those are the words of a patron of the peloton.

 

[Red Rick]

Tadej said the break can go tomorrow. Those are the words of a patron of the peloton.

Arrogance knows no bounds

 

[dercuforever]

You actually thought Evenepoel still had a shot at beating Pogacar going into today? That makes Abi look tame...

I'm french and i envy belgium.