Tour de France Tour de France 2024, Stage 4: Pinerolo > Valloire, 139.6 km

[scribers]

It is if they can get them there. But even in this case Jonas has to be dropped. Otherwise is just a race for couple of bonus seconds.

If you have these guys and they aren’t available to draft pogi on the downhill, then what’s the point of having them there? It’s very likely a GC day, so there will be multiple attacks by pogi on the Galibier. Once over the top he will get no draft

 

[Valv.Piti]

All this talk about headwind is giving me etna vibes. Hopefully UAE launch and cause some carnage.

Thankfully this is the Tour and not the Giro, so we will have a quite good stage anyways instead of watching 3rd tier climbers battle it out and a complete stalemante in the GC-group. And even if Galibier turns out to be a disappointment, it should be a great early fight

 

[stetre76]

I am working from home, dog is walked, wifey voluntered thet she will take children to playground and lunch is almost ready. So nothing will interrupt this stage

living the dream

 

[RobertCrawley]

I expect Tadej to attack on a steep section of the climb, and I expect Jonas to stay with him. I also think Jonas will counterattack, and Tadej will hang with him. They finish together down the hill.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Jacques Anquetil and Raymond Poulidor on the Galibier, 1966.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

What is all this pessimism, I predict that Pogačar will gain 20 seconds plus bonis and we will see significant gaps.

 

[KZD]

On one hand, I understand if UAE decides to go all in for Pogačar but I think today is actually a good stage to try the multiple leader strategy and roll attacks on the steeper part of the Galibier with some of their leaders and then Pogačar ready to do one final blow. Alternatively they might also try to put Ayuso or Almeida in the breakaway to see how Visma responds to that.

I still think the most likely scenario is Pogačar to attack after UAE does a mountain train, Vingegaard is the only one capable to follow and Pogačar wins the sprints both at the top and at the finish line. I expect Carapaz to finish in the next group with Remco, Roglič, Rodriguez, Yates and Almeida.

 

[meat puppet]

Think Kuss in the break early in the race at the vuelta. It applies pressure that can break teams

Team Soler would be an excellent choice in this regard.

 

[RobertCrawley]

Wouldn't it be great if yellow gives Richard wings, and he stays right with Tadej and Jonas for the rest of the race.

 

[scribers]

Apparently wind won’t be a factor

 

[RobertCrawley]

Nothing flat today. Good luck sprinters.

 

[Squire]

Thankfully this is the Tour and not the Giro, so we will have a quite good stage anyways instead of watching 3rd tier climbers battle it out and a complete stalemante in the GC-group. And even if Galibier turns out to be a disappointment, it should be a great early fight

Now I'm normally a Giro guy, but this is a good point in favour of the Tour. The peloton is always so stacked that any breakaway fighting for a stage is guaranteed to be made up of mostly quality riders.

 

[DarkBlue]

Pogs train is gonna leave the station and tear this thing to shreds.

Prepare for UAE to Light the Candle

 

[Netserk]

The descent of Galibier (17.35 km) has two distinct sections.

The first section down to Plan Lachat is the steepest and most technical, it's the part where Pidcock bridged up to the break in 2022. He got the Strava KOM for that segment then, but Alaphilippe was 3" faster than Pidcock when he tried to save his yellow jersey in 2019.

The second section from Plan Lachat to Valloire is much simpler. Only a few switchbacks, and many long and straight parts. In the last part of it, it flattens and you need to pedal. It favours the bigger riders and is the reason why Norsgaard has the record for the full descent, as he was ~43" faster than Pidcock on this segment.

 

[Netserk]

Van Aert and Campy!!

 

[motty89]

Wva straight on the attack

 

[RobertCrawley]

I'm really curious to see how well Remco hangs with the skinny boys today considering Remco is looking pretty darned thin himself. Can he hang with them?

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

On German ES they said they texted Pollit and he said they are gonna try to win the stage today. So stuff should happen

 

[scribers]

Wout wants in the break

 

[Valv.Piti]

Now I'm normally a Giro guy, but this is a good point in favour of the Tour. The peloton is always so stacked that any breakaway fighting for a stage is guaranteed to be made up of mostly quality riders.

Are you still a Giro-guy after the last 3-4 editions? Cause really, Im not anymore...

 

[Samamba]

Has this tactic ever worked for Campenaerts?

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Furious pace from the get-go, no smiles or chatting in the peloton today.

 

[Kangaridoo]

Victor goes full Campenaerts

 

[Miha81]

If you have these guys and they aren’t available to draft pogi on the downhill, then what’s the point of having them there? It’s very likely a GC day, so there will be multiple attacks by pogi on the Galibier. Once over the top he will get no draft

Beats me. I still don't understand how having 4 superdomestiques for climbing part would help (if Vinge is close to 100%).

 

[Netserk]

Abra to teleport up to Pedersen?