Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2020: Stage 12 (Pola de Laviana > Alto de l'Angliru, 109.4 km)

[roundabout]

Nibali "I've still got the best numbers" did 43:35 in 2013. Perhaps the stage was very different? Still, today was fairly short (if loaded).

I think (without checking) all recent Angliru stages have been short.

 

[RedheadDane]

Might just be because I'm Danish, and therefore has that focus, but is this a case where, for a guy like Valverde, it hurts a bit more to be dropped by some random kid from Hillerslev (yes, exactly; where?) than if he'd been dropped by someone like Froome?

 

[Tonton]

Hats off to Carthy for a HUGE win. I was expecting more for an Angliru finish, particularly with this route. It was a unique opportunity to take time on Roglic for lesser ITT riders (the rest). Too little, too late.

Kudos to the French Martin, the Irish Martin, and Mas.

 

[Red Rick]

I think (without checking) all recent Angliru stages have been short.

Contador's first win in 2008 was over 200km and almost 6 hours.

Nibali, needs to be noted, was attacking like crazy and blew up. Horner likely could've gone in the 42s if he'd gone from start to finish.

 

[SafeBet]

I don't really get the surprise at the climbing time.
Short stage + 2020. I honestly thought they'd be closer to 43 minutes after softpedalling yesterday's stage.

 

[Cassirer]

So no doubts about roglic' TT after seeimg him just sitting, not even pedalling on the rollers? Damn he looked done...

 

[saganftw]

wouldnt it be funny if carapaz pulled off a pogacar in TT, its even similar parcours tho shorter

 

[Red Rick]

I don't really get the surprise at the climbing time.
Short stage + 2020. I honestly thought they'd be closer to 43 minutes after softpedalling yesterday's stage.

I'm surprised it's so slow.

 

[46&twoWheels]

Was trying the same as Nibali, with the same result.
Trying to show muscles having no muscles.

let me tell you: CN is a pretty international forum with mature fans. You're not going to win much following......

 

[roundabout]

Contador's first win in 2008 was over 200km and almost 6 hours.

Nibali, needs to be noted, was attacking like crazy and blew up. Horner likely could've gone in the 42s if he'd gone from start to finish.

I mean post 2008. 2011/2013/2017 the longest was 144k.

 

[Big Doopie]

The overall is between Roglic and Carapaz. However there are still 3 riders capable of getting that last podium spot.

hmm.

not sure.

roglic should put things away in the ITT.

and wouldn't be surprised if carthy overtakes carapaz

 

[Anderis]

Carthy hasn’t been great in TTs, he put in a very good TT in the first one at the Giro last year.

Carthy has finished most of the TT's he had a reason to ride seriously throughout his career in the top10. I believe he can surprise a few people.

 

[titan31]

wouldnt it be funny if carapaz pulled off a pogacar in TT, its even similar parcours tho shorter

It's not really. Mirador is like 2km of the route and the rest is pan flat.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Tbh, where the hell Carthy come from...

Ey? Carthy has been noticeable in quite a lot of mountain stages for a few years now. He's very inconsistent so hasn't been a big threat to date much, but he's also now 26 so getting to the point where he ought to be able to put it together.

Back in 2016 with Caja Rural he was 9th in the Volta a Catalunya, finishing with Froome and Martin on Port-Ainé. He won the Vuelta a Asturais admittedly against a fairly mediocre field. He had a pretty meh first year at the top with Cannondale but he was 8th on Lo Port. He was 5th in Utah in 2018 and 3rd in Colorado, and perhaps most worthy of note, he was 11th in the 2019 Giro d'Italia, as well as winning the queen stage and the GPM in the Tour de Suisse. He's been prominent with attacks or in breaks in the mountains in the Giro and Vuelta for the last 3 years but hasn't been strong enough to make it stick. However, 11th in last year's Giro shows that he has the ability to put it together but he hasn't been able to really manage a consistent enough performance to make him a man talked up for the top end of the GC until now.

 

[solo80k]

Very good job by Roglic but still he has many guys to cover in last week. TT can give him a buffer of 1-1:30 minutes to main rivals. I'm not sure if it's enough, we'll see.

 

[Anybody_but..]

What happened?

One more:
Froome, valverde and Nibali are all in the same way ridiculous.
Each of them should retire as soon as possible, just to avoid being ridiculous more than one year.

 

[SafeBet]

I would love Soler to do well so we can put this "you attack today, you crack tomorrow" narrative to bed forever and ever.

But I'm kinda sure he'll crack and lose the 30 minutes I predicted he would lose today.

Ended up losing only 14...

 

[RedheadDane]

Tbh, where the hell Carthy come from...

Preston.

 

[Krokro]

Valverde, what a ridiculous loser.

Chill with the hate kiddo

 

[yaco]

Today showed the importance of a top quality domestique - Reckon Roglic would lose a minute today without Kuss - Hugh McCarthy is a decent ITTer - He'll do better than most in the top 10.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Glad that Huuuugee Carthy won! What a performance

Minimal differences in the end though.. I think Roglic will be happy

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Congrats to Carthy. It's incredible how inefficient his climbing style was but he still won at the end. Carapaz tried but it wasn't enough to put more time into Roglic, who limited his losses and is one step closer to winning the Vuelta. There is only one more dangerous climb and a TT on tuesday, when he should put over a minute into Carapaz.

He does make one think a little of Fernando Escartín.

 

[bigcog]

I think (without checking) all recent Angliru stages have been short.

Yeah I think you are right from my memory of them.

 

[RedheadDane]

Today showed the importance of a top quality domestique - Reckon Roglic would lose a minute today without Kuss - Hugh McCarthy is a decent ITTer - He'll do better than most in the top 10.

No 'Mc', though.

 

[Red Rick]

Very good job by Roglic but still he has many guys to cover in last week. TT can give him a buffer of 1-1:30 minutes to main rivals. I'm not sure if it's enough, we'll see.

I'm sure Kuss has all of them covered.