Vuelta a España Vuelta a España 2023, stage 13: Formigal - Col du Tourmalet, 134.7k

[Salvarani]

Remco made the time cut by 10 minutes, woohoo!

Valiant effort

 

[dobrien]

No he couldn't have. Vingegaard dropped Mas, whereas Kuss could not (initially).

Kuss can win the Vuelta, but Vingegaard was stronger today.

Early on it looked that way but Sepp was looking very frisky there at the end; if he wouldn't have had his initial acceleration balked he would have gotten closer for sure, and it looked like Jonas went VERY deep. Tomorrow should be most entertaining from a 'Jumbo Drama' standpoint. I really want Sepp to win but for the sake of the race a little TJV infighting drama wouldn't hurt.

 

[Unchained]

Order restored. Keldermania is back

Wilco in the selection

 

[Unchained]

The plan for Remco should be to get into red today -- attack and drop Kuss. If he doesn't/can't do it today, then when?

Stick to the plan

 

[Tricycle Rider]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1700181748842172582

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He's a bit awkward but I still like Vingo. (Still hope Rogla wins the grand prize though!)

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

If they do this 1-2-3 tactics in Angliru, it is going to enter cringe territory.

Very interesting to see how are they going to manage egos and public image.

it might conceivably be easier to manage egos with Kuss in a moderately substantial lead than it would have been with Roglic and Vingegaard in a close 1-2.

Kuss isn’t a threat to the other guy’s ongoing preeminence in the team. He’s also the best and most important domestique in the world. Even if Roglic and Vingegaard are cold enough not to feel much gratitude, it’s not really in their own longer term interests to be seen to be ruthlessly attacking him.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Only Callum Scotson abandoning, everybody else managed to stay in the race.

 

[GroupDK]

I think he tried. Seemed a little disappointed to end up third in GC. If he attacks to win it will look bad.

you do not have to guess, JV explained what their plan was today, and it was for Vingegaard to attack and go for the stage as it is Tourmalet, and if possible Kuss to counter and get up to Vingegaard..
Just as we saw, unfold, where Kuss tried to accelerate up to Vingegaard early but had to settle when he couldn't clear the tail and then tried again, later when he was able to clear..

Hilarious how some characters wanna be offended on Kuss behalf and stir up drama, when it all was according to plan..
but that is the DNA of social media/web, being offended on other people's behalf, in lack of knowledge.

 

[Didinho]

Just read that Ayuso fell in the neutralized zone before the stage yesterday? And had pain in the back. Solid effort still today.

 

[Bolder]

My point was that if Jonas COULD have taken the time, he would have. He is not going to be gifting Sepp anything, which is what I was responding to.

I think Jonas went all out. He was wiped out while Sepp cruised in. All 3 Jumbos were able to attack at will, more or less.

 

[theyoungest]

Early on it looked that way but Sepp was looking very frisky there at the end; if he wouldn't have had his initial acceleration balked he would have gotten closer for sure, and it looked like Jonas went VERY deep. Tomorrow should be most entertaining from a 'Jumbo Drama' standpoint. I really want Sepp to win but for the sake of the race a little TJV infighting drama wouldn't hurt.

But that's due to their respective strenghts: Kuss has that initial acceleration, that's why he's very good at being the final man for Rogla and Vingo, but he usually can't quite keep the pace high enough. He couldn't have done what Vingo did today.

It's all marginal though, both of them are very strong.

 

[RedheadDane]

Everyone, except for Scotson, made it.

 

[saunaking]

All that's left is for Sepp to win from the GC group.
Angliru is perfect place for that.
Tomorrow a break

 

[Libertine Seguros]

All that's left is for Sepp to win from the GC group.
Angliru is perfect place for that.
Tomorrow a break

On the plus side, the stage does finish on the steepest climb

 

[Oldermanish]

I think Jonas went all out. He was wiped out while Sepp cruised in. All 3 Jumbos were able to attack at will, more or less.

The top three had the luxury of doing zero work until the last 10km. Then, it was up to the competition to make it hard and they rode like individuals which didn't help the outcome for them.

Although Remco had a bad day, two young Belgians had a good day so there's that!

 

[Unchained]

Is this a bike race or a Quentin Tarantino movie?

Durango Unchanged
Kuss of Death
Ac-Sepp Defeat
Pulp Fiction- special Remco remix..

Today was lights out and the final group all rode exceptionally.. Really thought that Roglic would lose contact, we was gapping a little and I didn't see him w the calories for 3rd place.. Super great ride by Jumbo and Gesink put some serious wattage on the base of the climb.. Big contributor..

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Stick to the plan

He did enter the red zone earlier than most to be fair.

 

[Carols]

Wow TJV just Bossing one and all!!! What a display of power! They're going to be the first team to win all 3 GTs in the same year!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Everyone, except for Scotson, made it.

You must be happy then, since he's your least favourite rider in the race.

 

[AmRacer]

Rog, on his second GT
Jonas, on his second GT
Sepp, on his third GT

 

[Salvarani]

Stick to the plan

If the plan was to do an absolute bottle-job, he sure did.

 

[RedheadDane]

You must be happy then, since he's your least favourite rider in the race.

No he isn't! Well... wasn't.
Just to clarify, I also wasn't hoping that the not-so-circulating-after-all Johansen would win.

 

[Rackham]

Kaden Groves made it

That's a shame.

 

[RobertCrawley]

He's a bit awkward but I still like Vingo. (Still hope Rogla wins the grand prize though!)

I'm a big fan of Jonas. He's a humble, classy guy. He's a Dane, so he's not often going to get emotional in public. He rode with panache today!

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Don't think I've ever seen a 1-2-3 on a big GT MTF before. Make no mistake, this is a dark, dark day.

They're hard enough to find in mountain stages at any level, and when you do find them it's usually in rather less than reputable circumstances!!!

Glassdrive did a full formation finish on Senhora da Graça in last year's Volta a Portugal and Tabriz Petrochemical Team did a 1-2-3 in the Tour of Fuzhou in 2014, but those were the only ones I immediately found - though I did see a couple of 1-3-4-5s, again similar circumstances though - Liberty Seguros on the Alto da Torre in 2008, with Rui Sousa winning from the break, then David Blanco being trailed in by three straight Liberty Seguros riders; and Mount Fuji in the Tour of Japan in 2015, with Pishgaman Yazd winning the stage with Rahim Emami dropping Tabriz' Mirsamad Pourseyedi and then being followed in by three more Pishgaman riders.

At the far lower level you have Team Medellín at the Vuelta a la Independencia Nacional in 2019, where they just laid the hammer down and dropped the whole field on the Alto de la Virgén, but that is a Continental team that has the firepower to possibly be ProConti (or at least certainly would have done this year while Supermán was still riding) going up against some decidedly amateur opposition.

This was a Grand Tour, and while the Vuelta often has an element of "who has something left in the legs" about it because of being late in the season (hence some very random multiple stage winners over the years, like Tomasz Marczyński and Ben King), this is with three guys, two of whom have done a hilly classics season and a GT, and the other of whom is in his third GT of the season.