WC Richmond: Team selections

[Velolover2]

Fixed, Vesica,

And insane with the downhill pavé in the video. This is one of the most dangerous and nervous races in history. Especially if it rains.

 

[Velolover2]

Annoying that they can ride in the gutter for a big part of the Libby Hill climb. Should be blocked with sod.

 

[Vesica]

Nice.

Indeed, that downhill section is for the daredevils.

 

[togo95]

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Annoying that they can ride in the gutter for a big part of the Libby Hill climb. Should be blocked with sod.

It is not a big problem. The gutter will make it disadvantageous to ride on the cobbles so the peloton will stretch even more. For example Taaienberg without the gutter would be probably less selective than it is now.

 

[May0maniac]

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Annoying that they can ride in the gutter for a big part of the Libby Hill climb. Should be blocked with sod.

In the video Cassani is saying that he thinks that they'll put up barriers to avoid that, but it's not a big problem, I have to agree with Togo.

 

[hrotha]

Wow, those climbs are even weaker than I expected.

 

[jsem94]

Looking at Cassani's video makes me think Degenkolb FTW. But I don't know. I can see it coming though: only action on the final lap.

 

[jaylew]

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I am surprised at the French squad. How can they go with Bouhanni and Demare after FDJ took Bouhanni out of the French Nationals?

FDJ definitely appears to have gone with the wrong guy. Démare has been awful this year and doesn't even have illness or injury as an excuse. Ok, maybe awful is a tad strong but it's certainly been his worst season by far since his neo-pro year.

 

[PremierAndrew]

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Germany:

Road race:

John Degenkolb (26/Gera), Johannes Fröhlinger (30/Gerolstein), Simon Geschke (29/Berlin/alle Giant-Alpecin), Andre Greipel (33/Rostock/Lotto-Soudal), Christian Knees (34/Bonn/Sky), Paul Martens (31/Rostock/Lotto-NL Jumbo), Tony Martin, Marcel Sieberg (33/Castrop-Rauxel/Lotto-Soudal), Paul Voss (29/Rostock/Bora Argon 18)

Tony Martin doesn't need a birthplace. He is Tony Martin.

German engineering at its finest. Rumour has it that the engineers responsible for Panzerwagon went on to invent something even better a few years later - Alpecin Caffeine Shampoo

 

[orangerider]

After watching the video I'm thinking of someone who can still be punchy to hammer it hard after a long race. Van Avermaet would be my choice.

 

[King Boonen]

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Edit: I forgot an hidden climb. Makes it a little harder.

1 = E-main street. 6% for 350 m. Not cobbled.
2 = Libby Hill Park. 7.6 % for 250 m. Cobbled.
3 = 23rd Street. 11% (20% max) for 100 m. Was partly cobbled, but now fully cobbled.
4 = Governor Street. 6,9% for 290 m. Not cobbled.

Governor street is only 7%? Very different to how it's made out on the website then, I got 40m (from the profile) gained over 300m. 23rd Street is going to hurt the pure sprinters but this looks perfect for Degenkolb/Kristoff/Sagan.

http://richmond2015.com/about/courses/road-circuit/

Thanks, I'd seen that but couldn't work out which way round they were going and it seems Governor Street isn't the official name of the road. Does the climb start straight from the from the right hander?

Someone wanted the profile up thread, see if this works:

It worked!

If this is true:

"A quick descent, followed by three hard turns leads to a 100-meter-long climb up 23rd Street. Once atop this steep cobbled hill, riders descend into Shockoe Bottom. This leads them to the final 300-meter-long climb up Governor Street. At the top, riders face a 680-meter false flat to the finish."

Based on that profile it's about a 12-13% climb. Looking at the route I can't tell if they have to turn into it or they'll hit it at full speed. Anyone know?

A short video of Cassani talking about the circuit, even if you don't understand Italian it's interesting because you can see all the climbs and the whole circuit.
http://video.gazzetta.it/italia-ct-...richmond/87b732e2-5af1-11e5-8e80-337bbcc6514c

Brilliant, thanks! That should answer any questions I have.

 

[togo95]

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Governor street is only 7%? Very different to how it's made out on the website then, I got 40m (from the profile) gained over 300m. 23rd Street is going to hurt the pure sprinters but this looks perfect for Degenkolb/Kristoff/Sagan.

http://richmond2015.com/about/courses/road-circuit/

Thanks, I'd seen that but couldn't work out which way round they were going and it seems Governor Street isn't the official name of the road. Does the climb start straight from the from the right hander?

If you look at the Street View you can see the right hander onto Governor Street is somewhere before the middle of that last rise, so the 300 m at 7% is not for the whole ascent just the second part on Governor Street. Overall it's something like 700 m at 5.5% I think.

 

[Velolover2]

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Wow, those climbs are even weaker than I expected.

If they aren't trying to make the race hard, it should be a walk in the park for Kristoff.

 

[Velolover2]

Not even Degenkolb or Sagan can't wait until the sprint if Kristoff is still there. They have to go on Governor Street.

 

[Asero831]

Any prediction on how the race will unfold. For sure the first 30 riders will only be separated by 20 seconds

 

[togo95]

If Degenkolb is strong enough to attack on Governor Street, then he should be able to compete with Kristoff in the potential sprint as well. I doubt he will have the power to do either though.

 

[King Boonen]

Degenkolb or Kristoff for me. The only way someone else is getting it (a Belgian) is if they really make it a hard race AND they can actually work together.

Outside change for a guy like Stybar managing to get a gap and no-one chasing in the confusion, seems unlikely though.

 

[robin440]

Zwift rebuilt the whole richmond course:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hSHIKy0tRBk

 

[Velolover2]

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Degenkolb or Kristoff for me. The only way someone else is getting it (a Belgian) is if they really make it a hard race AND they can actually work together.

Outside change for a guy like Stybar managing to get a gap and no-one chasing in the confusion, seems unlikely though.

I hope there is a chance that an elite group will form a strong break. Terpstra, Vanmarcke, Vandenberg, Trentin, Boonen, Boom, Stannard and perhaps Dumoulin would make a dangerous cocktail.

Germany and Norway should be forced to do most of the chasing.

 

[King Boonen]

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Degenkolb or Kristoff for me. The only way someone else is getting it (a Belgian) is if they really make it a hard race AND they can actually work together.

Outside change for a guy like Stybar managing to get a gap and no-one chasing in the confusion, seems unlikely though.

I hope there is a chance that an elite group will form a strong break. Terpstra, Vanmarcke, Vandenberg, Trentin, Boonen, Boom, Stannard and perhaps Dumoulin would make a dangerous cocktail.

Germany and Norway should be forced to do most of the chasing.

They should be forced to but no doubt GB will do it all for them...

 

[hfer07]

Colombian Squad:

Elite Road Race:

Rigoberto Urán Urán (Etixx Quick Step)
Winner Andrew Anacona Gómez (Movistar Team)
Miguel Ángel López Moreno (Astana Pro Team)
Járlinson Pantano Gómez (IAM Cycling)
Carlos Eduardo Alzate Escobar (United HealtCare)
Daniel Alexander Jaramillo Diez (Jamis Hagens Berman)
Edwin Alcibiades Ávila Vanegas (Team Colombia)
Carlos Julián Quintero Noreña (Team Colombia)
Alex Norberto Cano Ardila (Team Colombia)

U23:

Fernando Gaviria Rendón (Coldeportes - Claro)
Jhonatan Restrepo Valencia (Coldeportes - Claro)
Jhonathan Stivens Ospina Rivas (GW Shimano)
Juan Felipe Osorio Arboleda (Team Manzana Postobón)
Wilmar Andrés Paredes Zapata (Team Manzana Postobón)
Juan Sebastián Molano Benavides (Team Colombia)

 

[Popchu]

Matthews will win I think.

Uran also for ITT?

 

[DNP-Old]

Colombian Squad:

Elite Road Race:

Rigoberto Urán Urán (Etixx Quick Step)
Winner Andrew Anacona Gómez (Movistar Team)
Miguel Ángel López Moreno (Astana Pro Team)
Járlinson Pantano Gómez (IAM Cycling)
Carlos Eduardo Alzate Escobar (United HealtCare)
Daniel Alexander Jaramillo Diez (Jamis Hagens Berman)
Edwin Alcibiades Ávila Vanegas (Team Colombia)
Carlos Julián Quintero Noreña (Team Colombia)
Alex Norberto Cano Ardila (Team Colombia)

U23:

Fernando Gaviria Rendón (Coldeportes - Claro)
Jhonatan Restrepo Valencia (Coldeportes - Claro)
Jhonathan Stivens Ospina Rivas (GW Shimano)
Juan Felipe Osorio Arboleda (Team Manzana Postobón)
Wilmar Andrés Paredes Zapata (Team Manzana Postobón)
Juan Sebastián Molano Benavides (Team Colombia)

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[SKSemtex]

Slovakia

Peter Sagan
Juraj Sagan
Michal Kolář

Slovakia is 20 points short to have the fourth man in the squad.

Sagan (in form of the first week of Tour) could me the man to beat here, even without the strong team. However at this time of season he is usually only the shadow of summer Sagan.
Let us see how the new team can prepare him for WC and Il Lombardia

 

[vladimir]

Slovakia

Peter Sagan
Juraj Sagan
Michal Kolář

Slovakia is 20 points short to have the fourth man in the squad.

Sagan (in form of the first week of Tour) could me the man to beat here, even without the strong team. However at this time of season he is usually only the shadow of summer Sagan.
Let us see how the new team can prepare him for WC and Il Lombardia

Just checked the odds at the sportsbook at Betfair, and I am very surprised that they hold Sagan as the favourite. Kristoff, Degenkolb and van Avermaet follows. Also noted that no italians are lower than 40/1